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And I thought, that is the prayer of the woman at the well, that's the prayer of the woman caught in adultery, and essentially it's the prayer of all of us. Jesus woos us, and eventually we come to a place where we just fall into his arms.

You talk about "still point," quoting the T.S. Eliot poem, "Except for the point, the still point, there would be no dance. And there is only the dance." What is the still point?

If you take the image of two dancers dancing and they're twirling around in the room, all the room is going around them and their bodies are moving and they're moving across the floor. And yet they are locked in an embrace and looking at each other eye to eye.

And that is the still point, that is the thing that doesn't move. And it is around that still point, the intimacy of that eye contact, that all the activity revolves. And I think that's a metaphor for how our relationship with the Lord Jesus is supposed to be–that our activity for him should grow out of our intimacy with him.

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