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The Dick Staub Interview: The Ascetic American Dream
David Matzko McCarthy, author of The Good Life: Genuine Christianity for the Middle Class, talks about the wealth and the poverty of the American middle class.



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In The Good Life: Genuine Christianity for the Middle Class, David Matzko McCarthy applies to the middle class Jesus' command in Matthew 6: "Strive first for the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well." He advocates for a holistic asceticism that puts people, money, and possessions into proper relationship with Christ's command. McCarthy is assistant professor of theology at Mount St. Mary's College in Maryland. He is also the author of Sex and Love in the Home: A Theology of the Household.

Your daughter came home one day and asked, "Are we rich?" Are you?

I don't think of myself as rich. And this was the great quandary with my daughter. I don't think of myself as poor either, and so I didn't know what to answer. In a sense that's the plight of the middle class. The Scriptures talk about rich and poor often, particularly in the New Testament. But where do we fit?

I admitted to myself I do have the dream of being rich—not enough to actually go out and buy a lottery ticket—but it's just kind of there. In the book, I was really trying to think about our ambitions and how they should take shape or be transformed by the gospel.

We are rich, particularly by comparison to the rest of the world. It seems that we then have to identify with the rich young ruler of the gospels.

In thinking about rich and poor, I thought the burdens of the poor are imposed on them. And, in a sense, the rich young man imposed burdens on himself. He was his own worst enemy. He was unable to give up or let go. It was his own choice. That is partly what I was trying to think through: How do we middle class Americans, in our desire to have one lifestyle or another, impose burdens upon ourselves? And how can the gospel free us from those burdens?

You talk about a middle class asceticism. How is that a useful introduction to our relationships with people?

I think that we live in two kinds of relationships. Some are efficient and useful, but we also enter into relationships that are burdensome. Being a friend to another is sharing burdens, and sometimes those are the best kinds of relationships that we have. We reach depths of care and love and self-giving because of our burdens. Yet sometimes we think we shouldn't get attached to people who are a burden. Lots of life is inefficient, and people aren't always useful. But perhaps that's where we find the richness of God's love for the world.

I have this sense that when we treat each other fairly and give each other the things that we deserve, that we naturally cultivate a deep connection. If we take care of the small things—that is, if we stay around each other long enough and don't give up on each other—we will find deeper connections of love and caring about each other's good.

You talk about the Good Samaritan and what it means to be a neighbor. What do we need to learn about love as it relates to neighbors?

I know for myself it's easy to love my neighbor when it's a person who's got a flat tire on the side of the road. I can take a little time, help fix the tire, get back in my car, and never see the person again. It's my actual neighbors I have trouble with. I have to deal with them every day. But love requires steadfastness and fidelity.

At the same time, you note that it's our church, not our house, that we should see as our home.

Our first family is God's family. That should define how we are families. God's family comes before biological families or households. If you think about home, the place where you are most yourself, or the home where your primary relationships are, or home where you want to invite people in and have hospitality, all of that is the call of the church. In my life of not thinking about the church as a home, I have just thought about the church as what I personally needed out of it.

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