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Emergent's New Christians and the Young, Restless Reformed (Conclusion)

Tony Jones and Collin Hansen find connections as they discuss each other's books and movements.

Collin Hansen and Tony Jones | posted 5/14/2008 10:00AM

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Actually, I'm not disheartened by these trends. I think that a new consensus is possible. I think that Protestantism as we know it is ending, and a new orthodoxy is building. It won't be quite like the conciliar period, but the Internet will facilitate something similar. Back then, it was bishops from Africa, Europe, and the Near East overcoming their geographical differences to build the church. Today it will be Wesleyans, Reformeds, and Anabaptists, etc. overcoming archaic and crumbling walls.

I hope this dialogue might be a small part in that movement of the Spirit. Your book, Collin, was thoughtful and evenhanded. I appreciate it, and I'm glad to call you a friend.

— Tony

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Darren King - Precipice Magazine

Posted: May 26, 2008 9:42 AM

Chad, By saying that the reason why Total Depravty is a true conception is because comes via the grace of God, as opposed to from our own human understanding, you missed the point altogether. Don't you see that interpretation happens? And that interpretative differences demonstrate that the biblical truth is not black and white, not clear via the grace of God? If the doctrine of total depravity were so clearly articulated via the grace of God then why do so many Christian groups not agree with the conception? That's Tony's point. You want to claim that we humans suffer from total depravity of mind, and yet declare your interpretative viewpoint as crystal-clear and untarnished. Don't you see the irony there? Please... Our biblical viewpoints are ALWAYS a combination of the biblical text poured through the filter of our own interpretive grid. There is no unfiltered interpretation that comes via the grace of God.

Kory	Posted: May 22, 2008 11:03 AM

I actually think "open-source" theology saved the church from some unbiblical doctrines. Over the years when certain teachings were coming from the "magisterium," it was lay people, monks, and parrish priests that said, "Hey, wait a minute here." Isn't that one of the fundamental (at least theoretically) principles of the Reformation -- priesthood of all believers? Isn't that why it was so important to have scripture in the hands of everyone? The Reformation is the father of "open-source" theology and clearly a good thing as long as it's done in community.

Alan House

Posted: May 16, 2008 8:01 AM


You GO, Leroy! What an exercise in futility producing many words to be printed clarifying nothing other than how wordy can we be while we are each informing the other side that they are in darkness still!

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