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John and I do have difficulties. He takes offense when I seem unmoved by the mistreatment of homosexuals in contemporary society. I am certainly not numb to this reality. But I remind him that horrific stories emerge every month of Christians around the world losing their basic freedoms, limbs, or lives. I remind John that I attend New Life Church in Colorado Springs, where last December, a man came to our Sunday service with a loaded gun and a heart full of hate, killing some of the people I worshiped with.

Who Feels Persecuted?

Understanding how we unwittingly hurt each other is instructive, but we realize that a relationship made up of "I'm okay, you're okay" mantras is no relationship at all. Conflict is a curious gift because it sharpens us, demanding grace and forgiveness. Complete harmony is the exclusive domain of the members of the Godhead or solipsists. Someone without frictional relationships is indeed a poor soul, for we are best formed in the crucible of conflict.

John is honest enough to recognize that being a Christian on a secular campus is no day at the beach. He notes that "his folks" have little reticence about standing up in large forums and asking demanding questions. "My folks," on the other hand, are typically silent or miniscule in number. He sees that after our events, students will approach me quietly, mumble something, shake my hand, and leave. He imagines this is how closeted students struggling with their sexuality would approach him. This observation has recently led John to launch into a sermonette about how we are all the poorer for only one side's involvement— including John, who is cheated out of participating in this section of the evening.

At Louisiana State University in 2007, his plea on this point was particularly impassioned. After a long, uncomfortable silence, a mother with her teenage children in tow nervously stood. "I feel very strongly about this issue, but I feel unsafe to speak up," she said. "Look at how Mr. Stanton is being treated tonight, and he hasn't said anything particularly controversial. Who would want to subject themselves to that? That is why I think the other side is not being represented." She merely voiced what John and I had seen on campus after campus.

We have wondered what it would be like to have a journalist follow us to three iconic secular and three conservative Christian campuses to note the differences. Where would we be more likely to find the most thoughtful engagement? Which events would demonstrate a healthy democracy? Would there be a difference? John and I gather we would find that "fundamentalists" don't come in one wrapper—that an event at even Bob Jones University might turn out to be more civil than, say, the tolerant University of Wisconsin, Madison.

Few of us are able to curb our dogmatism, nor should we. It sticks to any interesting person like toilet paper on the heel upon leaving the restroom; we only mock it when we see it stuck to others. It is John's and my hope that our friendship—which has become a curious, ever-giving treasure for both of us—will help audiences understand that strongly held differences can actually bring us together in meaningful ways.

Glenn T. Stanton is the director of family formation studies at Focus on the Family. He is the author of many books, including Marriage on Trial (IVP) and My Crazy Imperfect Christian Family (NavPress).



Related Elsewhere:

John Corvino responds to Glenn Stanton's article on 365gay.com.

Marriage on Trial and My Crazy Imperfect Christian Family are available from ChristianBook.com and other retailers.

Christianity Today has a special section on sexuality & gender and same-sex marriage.

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Elizabeth   Posted: December 14, 2008 4:23 PM
I'm a Christian and a Quaker and gay. I read about this article from LOGO news at 365gay.com in an article written by Corvino. I attend a Campus Crusade for Christ group on my campus with a facilitator who works for an organization that hurts LGBT people. I struggle all the time with how to be friends with her. It's a constant challenge, but when I'm able to do it well and leave the judging to God, I feel magnified in the Lord's presence. I believe that by being a good Christian and gay and participating in a group with those who persecute me, I can be a witness for God. So I admire you for going the other direction. I will never stop fighting for justice, but I also hope I will never fail to recognize other humans as beautiful creations of God, and that this will lead to redemptive dialogue.

Michael Carter   Posted: December 13, 2008 11:17 PM
I'm glad that you have both forged so unlikely a friendship and can debate one another in a positive manner. I've encountered few willing to treat me with the respect and dignity I try to treat them, and I see the same from those on my side. In regards to your UoI example, I feel you answered that particular question with grace. However, I would like to take that inquiry further. Homosexual couples form families regardless whether they are granted the right to marry. These families are comprised of two parents and their children. To deny homosexuals the right to marry denies jural rights to a person's partner's children; legally, the other partner is not the parent of the children he or she raises. Personally, I feel this endangers the children more than having two parents of the same gender; should a parent die, the children could be ripped from the family by legal action. Is this not more damaging? I'm sure this question is a common one, but I'm curious as to your response.

Brendan   Posted: December 13, 2008 9:31 AM
I'm on John's side, but having read your articles on the friendship you have forged in such strange circumstances, I feel you are one of the few opponents that is able to communicate without denigration. I agree that the most "tolerant" of campuses likely treat you with more contempt and rudeness than those I would consider "less tolerant" (of folks like me). I find that saddening. While I would label some of your fellow evangelicals as hate mongering, I would equally label some gay rights activists as "secessionists," bent on creating a separate gay 'race' or 'ethnicity' within the human family. I doubt seriously, from reading your article, that you would have a hard time if you found John and his partner were your neighbors; you seem to be able to live side by side quite well. So I remain puzzled over your fundamental views in opposition to their relationship. But I appreciate you for being able to say that you have gay friends, and they are not monsters. We rarely hear/feel that.

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