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Tim Keller: What We Owe the Poor

The pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian Church says seeking justice is not optional for the person saved by grace.

Generous Justice: How God's Grace Makes Us Just
Generous Justice: How God's Grace Makes Us Just
Keller, Timothy
Dutton Adult
November 2, 2010
256 pp., $13.15

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Tim Keller has strong words for people who do not care about the poor: "All I know is, if I don't care about the poor, if my church doesn't care about the poor, that's evil." The head pastor of Redeemer Presbyterian Church and author of Generous Justice: How God's Grace Makes Us Just (Dutton) spoke with New York-based writer Kristen Scharold about why helping the least of these should be every Christian's mission.

Why do you think generosity is crucial to biblical justice?

I used the term "generous justice" because many people make a distinction between justice and charity. They say that if we give to the poor voluntarily, it's just compassion and charity. But Job says that if I'm not generous with my money, I'm offending God, which means it's not an option and it is unjust by definition to not share with the poor. It's biblical that we owe the poor as much of our money as we can possibly give away.

What do you hope readers will learn about the relationship between God's grace and justice?

Cause and effect: God's grace makes you just. The gospel is such that even though you're not saved by good works, you are saved by grace and faith—and it will change your life and lead to good works. According to the Bible, if you really have been changed by the grace of God, it will move you toward the poor.

Many Christians hear "justice" and think about issues like sex trafficking, HIV/AIDS, and so on. Would you include those in your definition?

My definition of justice is giving humans their due as people in the image of God. We all agree that everyone deserves not to be enslaved, beaten, raped, or killed. We are not just talking about helping the poor but helping people whose rights are being violated. What people are due is not an easy thing to determine from the Bible. I'm urging Christians not to be so certain that they know how the Bible translates into public policy.

Many Christians say that the best way to do justice in the world is to be a Democrat, others say to be a Republican. I'm trying to shake people loose and say that you need to be involved in your political party without that kind of triumphalism.

Can you elaborate on the relationship between preaching and justice?

The heart of what I'm supposed to do is preach the Word, win people to faith, and then disciple them. But I can't disciple people without telling them, "Help the poor." To believe in Jesus is to obey all he commanded, which means helping the poor.

There is a division between evangelicals. Some feel that doing justice is not what the church is supposed to be doing; on the other hand, there is an overreaction to that among many younger evangelicals who would say the job of the church is word and deed equally. I want people to remember that the impetus for helping people comes from the experience of grace.

What part do you see Generous Justice having in the conversations that people like Ron Sider and Tony Campolo have had for several years?

Tony and Ron have been writing great stuff for years, but they're assuming that their readers basically agree about the importance of the church's involvement with justice. My book is trying to move people forward and inspire them without leaving behind folks who have questions about the mission of the church and the relationship of social justice to evangelism.

In Counterfeit Gods, you wrote about the cultural idolization of money, romance, and power. What idols might prevent us from doing justice?

First, race. People look at people who are different and see them as inferior and deserving of their problems. It's a way of feeling better than others, because our hearts don't want to rest in the gospel of grace. Power is another idol, because justice requires being involved with people of other races and sharing power with them.


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A Hermit

December 17, 2010  7:18pm

To sum up Mr. McKinney's main contention (and if I err, I trust he will correct me)- human material poverty is the result of the failure of humanity to embrace private property, free markets, and capitalism. It is my contention that human material poverty is the result of the 'fall'- human self-centeredness, greed, and ignorance. The theory that 'free markets' (nor any economic system) will prevent humans from acting in aforementioned manner is nonsense. Only individuals who have come to a realization of God (Truth and love) and act under the guidance of the Holy Spirit (individually and collectively as nations) will relate to others in a spiritual and material way to end aforementioned 'sin'. How will they act economically? Acts 4, 32.

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A Hermit

December 17, 2010  6:58pm

Mr. McKinney- "Your reading of Marx". You fail to give a quote or reference, because you can't. Marx's primary theory was not about free markets and monopolies (business entities) but owners (as a class) and workers (as a class). You say I take a quote out of context, and should read the whole book. 'Economics' was the standard text which was used in an economics course I took in graduate school (though I am not an economist). I used the quote to very succinctly sum up the general point. Have you read Samuelson- or is that another bit of 'socialist propaganda'? And you who keep on saying everyone else should study economics, just how much economics have you studied? I presume you have an advanced degree? Further, you have misrepresented what I have said in this dialog at least once (Microsoft being a monopoly); I have no faith that you haven't misrepresented others in coming up with support for your theories.

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Roger McKinney

December 17, 2010  4:09pm

My information on Marx is based upon reading over decades. But you'll find I'm right if you read enough Marx. And if you learn economics you'll discover that monopolies in free markets are next to impossible to maintain. Only state-created monopolies last. As for the quote from the econ text, read the whole thing. Yes, supply and demand are a factor, but what determines supply & demand? Is the demand for unskilled labor no different from the demand for highly skilled labor? Of course it is. You need to know the whole context of labor theory, not just a sentence pulled out of context. What causes an increase in demand for labor? Answer: new investment and increased productivity. Both shift the demand curve. An increase in productivity will shift the supply curve upward, too. Both shifts increase wages. Differences in productivity explain differences in wages better than anything.

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