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May 26, 2012

Home > 2011 > February (Web-Only)Christianity Today, February (Web-Only), 2011
Do Egypt's Evangelicals Get Along with the Coptic Orthodox?
More than they used to, say observers and insiders.




Participants in Egypt's recent protests stunned observers in many ways. One major surprise came when the world witnessed protesters of different faiths cooperating with one another in a way Egypt has rarely seen before.

"When Muslims prayed in Tahrir Square, the Coptic Orthodox and Coptic Evangelicals protected them from anyone who would want to interfere," said Len Rodgers, executive director of Evangelicals for Middle East Understanding. "And then, during a Coptic Orthodox Mass in Tahrir, the Muslims protected the Coptic Orthodox. This is, I would say, unprecedented. It's a very unusual and, I would say, optimistic possibility for the future."

It is unique enough for Muslims and Christians to guarantee one another the chance to pray and worship unmolested, but for many years evangelical Christians and Coptic Orthodox believers also have had a hard time coming together on much of anything.

The first major Protestant presence in Egypt arrived with a group of Presbyterian missionaries in the 1850s, according to Kenneth Bailey, a lecturer in Middle Eastern New Testament Studies who lived in the Middle East for 40 years. It wasn't long, Bailey says, before Coptic leaders grew to regard them as rivals.

"The Coptic Orthodox claim the Apostle Mark was the founder of the Coptic Orthodox Church," says Rodgers. "The Coptic Evangelicals … appeared to be competition to the ancient church."

There's also a cultural aspect: "The Coptic people feel they are the original Egyptians," Rodgers says, and the Orthodox Church feels themselves protectors of the Coptic heritage—"and [are] not all that willing to share it with the newcomers."

"There was a great deal of persecution of Protestants in that period," Bailey says, comparing evangelical-Orthodox relations of that time with the atmosphere between Protestants and Catholics in the 1600s. But evangelical success, he says, had its impact on the way the Orthodox went about their faith. 

"About a quarter of a million people became Protestants," Bailey says. "Very gradually, the Orthodox Church began to incorporate into their life various aspects of Protestant life. For example, there was no preaching in the Mass. Finally, under pressure, the [Orthodox] started preaching. Sunday schools start across the street, they have to start Sunday schools."

The Coptic Church also began to place greater emphasis on Scripture. Rodgers describes the current Coptic Pope, Shenouda III, as a Bible scholar who leads weekly Bible studies to a full house at St. Mark's Cathedral in Cairo.

Everyone agrees relations have improved in recent years. Rodgers suggests that intermarriage between believers of different groups has played a major part in thawing some of the tension. Also, he says, a lot of the points of contention revolved around "fine points of theology" that "as they are studied and dialogued [about] in a peaceful venue, I guess they find that they're not as thorny as they thought."

"I think as time goes by there's more understanding that the two parties have a lot more in common than they have differences," Rodgers said.

These days, evangelical and Coptic leaders visit and bless one another's major events, Rodgers says. Pope Shenouda has relationships with the leaders of various evangelical groups.

"The will to exclusivity is dying, and things are gradually getting better," Bailey said. He compares the status of Coptic Evangelicals to the place of Protestants in a Catholic nation. "The Protestant Church in Italy … they're very small, they know that they are definitely about third-class citizenship in the Christian arenas of life. The Roman Catholics dominate everything. Some priests accept them, and many do not. It's a very mixed bag. Exactly the same thing could be said about evangelicals in Egypt."





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Displaying 1–5 of 11 comments

Paul Sundberg

February 27, 2011  2:24pm

(By an Anglican who has lived and taught in Cairo.) Modern Coptic Orthodox and modern Coptic Evangelical believers need to be careful not to read into history the situation they have known for only - what - 10, 20, 30, 40 years of their lives. No one alive remembers the 1850s and the religious situation in Egypt at the time. Both Orthodox and Presbyterians in Egypt have changed in many ways since then. Orthodox M. Saad is reading into history what he knows of his life as an Orthodox believer now. It is an objective observation that the Coptic Orthodox has incorporated many aspects of Protestantism - positive ones, I believe - in the ongoing reform and development of this still vital, living faith. It hasn't lost its historical Monophysite Orthodox core, but it isn't the Coptic Orthodox church of 150 years ago. And neither is the modern Ingili (Evangelical) Coptic Church, which has benefited from various renewal movements in the past century as well. "Reformation" is never done!

Michael Saad

February 20, 2011  11:38pm

1) As a Copt, I am delighted the article talks about the cordial relation between Orthodox, Catholics and Protestants in Egypt in the last 40 years. 2) The statement "The Coptic Church also began to place greater emphasis on Scripture" is in gross error. Liturgical scholars and Coptic worshippers know that the Coptic Orthodox Church has biblical readings in any single Eucharistic worship more than what an Evangelical/Catholic church reads in months. 3) The statement "There was a great deal of persecution of Protestants in that period" is also in error. If any thing, the Protestants persecuted the Coptic Orthodox whenever there was an opportunity. In my childhood in Egypt, 60 years ago, almost all Protestant pulpits had to include in every sermon something unfair to describe Coptic Orthodoxy. e.g, they used harsh words against the holy virgin Mary, something they would not accept to their own mothers. We still hear such words on certain Protestant radio programs in America. Peace.

Truman Farley

February 18, 2011  11:42am

The Copts are right to dislike and distrust the "evangelicals". The Copts are part of the universal church, dating back to the time of the Apostles. The so-called "evangelicals" are children of a 16th century European heresy with no connection to historical Christianity. Copts don't understand salvation??? I think Protestants don't understand Christianity.

Dan H

February 17, 2011  2:27pm

I don't know. I don't think I'd want to be a Copt. I mean, think of all of the bad jokes at your expense. Say you meet some friends for coffee and just as you sit down, someone says, "Amscray, its a Copt!" And they all get up and leave. Is that funny? And what does it mean if someone says, "Man, you just Copt out." What do you say to that? Something clever, I bet. And what if you are a police officer who just happens to be a Copt, and you go to arrest the bad guys holed up in a building, and they find out you are a Copt. You know they'll say something like, "You'll never take me alive Copt-er!" And the next sound you here is them - giggling? Think you'll strike fear in their hearts then? (I don't think so.) And as a police interrogator, could you ever play good Copt bad Copt without feeling a little awkward? And would you ever let your kids play Copts and... So before you convert, you've got to ask yourself one very important question: Do I really need the humiliation?

Ben Duarte

February 17, 2011  10:23am

The Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodoxy and All Evangelical Protestant Churches are normally classified as Orthodox Christianity. Although, there are very real variations in their soteriology, communion, authority, church government (polity), these variations occur within Evangelicals alone. We must take into consideration that these three branhces have in common; the trinity, the deity of Christ and the Holy Spirit, the virgin birth, and Christ dying on the cross for our sins, rising on the third day, thus, the gospel. Rodgers mentions that the Eastern Pope is in process; seeking scripture more often. For me, this is a positve. We must take an apologetic stand in Egypt together. Challenging Islam in this type of unity may bring a long awaited historical movement.

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