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Exclusive: Christian Wiman Discusses Faith as He Leaves World's Top Poetry Magazine

Wiman's Baptist faith lay dormant until love and cancer unearthed it.

Your faith does not come across as breezy in your essays, which you occasionally grace with levity. For example: "If I ever sound like a preacher in these passages, it's only because I have a hornet's nest of voluble and conflicting parishioners inside of me." Does your faith ever express itself as peace?

Rarely, which I see as a weakness. I do feel that some people may be called to unbelief—or what looks like unbelief—in order that faith may take new forms. Emily Dickinson is a good example of this, or Albert Camus. But I also believe that God requires every last cell of yourself to bow down. Or perhaps that verb, requires, is wrong, or that it's God doing the requiring: It's more like your nature requires, in order to be your nature, that every last cell of yourself bow down. There is still some satanic pride in me, for which I pay a high price.

And yet, I have certainly experienced peace in poems that in their sheer givenness seemed to reveal something of God to me. I have written poems that begin in great anguish and explode into joy. As psychically difficult as the poems may have been to write, certainly I have felt peace and presence in their wake.

There are other moments, too, which are simply moments of life. Simply! I think of the poet Paul Eluard: "There is another world, but it is in this one." I have 3-year-old twin daughters. It would be disingenuous in the extreme for me to pretend that they don't at times drive all thought of God out of my head and make me want to write a series of sonnets in praise of celibacy, but it would be equally insane for me not to acknowledge that they are the source of my greatest happiness. Father Zossima, in The Brothers Karamazov, defines hell as "the inability to love." I have known that hell, and I should probably spend my remaining days thanking God that I am free of it.


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January/February 2013, Vol. 57, No. 1, Pg 48, "God Between the Lines"
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maggie bruehl

January 05, 2013  4:29pm

What a way to snap to attention! I was curious if the cancer was Multiple Myeloma, which is considered incurable, mainly hits men and has been one of my personal inspirations as I've battled it for 6 years. There is great hope, not in it being cured, but in living with it dependent on God's grace and timing in our lives. I'm glad that it has caused him to look at the world differently as it has me, and look forward to reading his poetry.

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chris turner

January 04, 2013  6:41pm

Great comments Jerome and Rick. God loves it when we exhaust ourselves in His presence...yes what patience! Love the Zossima reference, too. Dostoyevsky peals back the bare truth with this guy. Powerful read.

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Jerome Ellard

January 04, 2013  10:05am

I got at least two things from Christian's interview: - how powerful our experiences can be in clarifying our relationship with God (love and cancer, in his case) and - how patient God is with us all.

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