Guest / Limited Access /

Note: No spoilers for the season finale, but we figured the rest of season 3 is fair game for discussion.

In the third season finale of Downton Abbey, which airs Sunday night on PBS, series creator Julian Fellowes puts the cap on perhaps the most ...

Read More

Displaying 1–8 of 8 comments

Paul Schryba

March 01, 2013  8:11pm

Re: Ken Shomo- "Religion in Downton Abbey is something safe and ritualistic." That is an accurate description of how religious the majority of people were in England for most of the time depicted in the series. Religion was about belonging to the group and adhering to a societal standard of personal morality. Loyalty to King and Country was considered loyalty and obedience to God. "The canon law of the Church of England states, "We acknowledge that the Queen’s most excellent Majesty, acting according to the laws of the realm, is the highest power under God in this kingdom, and has supreme authority over all persons in all causes, as well ecclesiastical as civil." (Canon A7 quoted in Wikipedia)

Report Abuse

audrey ruth

February 22, 2013  5:40pm

This is a bit OT, but I really wish people would read what the Bible really says and quit propogating the myth that Mary Magdelene was a prostitute. What we do know is that Jesus delivered her of a number of demons, then she followed Him from then on. That said, I am not impressed with Downton Abbey, just as I am also not impressed with any of the many TV shows which seek to normalize homosexual behavior, as well as any other form of immorality. Like another poster, I also cannot watch this program in good conscience.

Report Abuse

Ken Shomo

February 18, 2013  8:26pm

Religion in Downton Abbey is something safe and ritualistic. Truthfully, God doesn't show up in any meaningful way at all. Yet the writer of this piece seems beside himself with excitement that Julian Fellowes has brought God into this show. In fact, he used God the way politicians do: to fool religious people and for self-justification. If this article is any indication, we evangelicals are more gullible than ever.

Report Abuse

Marian Van Til

February 17, 2013  4:08pm

Todd Dorman seems to have fallen prey to political correctness himself, as, obviously, did screenwriter Julian Fellowes. Several other commenters here made good points re: the other characters' reactions to Thomas Barrow's homosexuality. There is just no way that Lord Grantham would have accepted Barrow's proclivities as Fellowes has him do while at the same time so thoroughly shunning a reformed prostitute. Actually, Barrows would have, in the real world, have been gone, courtesy of Lord Grantham, after he stole wine from Grantham early in the series. Also, virtually all the characters are suddenly made to act like they knew Barrow was gay (to use the anachronistic term). That also goes against both reality and the previous storyline. The whole episode was pretty much a sorry mess infiltrated with oh-so-enlightened secular 21st century attitudes towards "gayness." I'm going to watch the final episode of the season tonight, but I wholly understand why one other commenter said she won't

Report Abuse

Mary Foster

February 16, 2013  12:38am

Reading this much religion in to a few comments in one show is pretty ridiculous. I doubt the Oxford Movement would have gained much purchase at Downton. It was a very high church movement, blending into Anglo-Catholicism. To people in the Downton circle, religion, or church attendance was more social obligation than deeply held spiritual belief. I found what'-his-face, the lord's, acceptance of Thomas' homosexuality pretty unbelievable. I seriously doubt it would have been so tolerated not long after Oscar Wilde was sent to prison for the same offense. He saw the cops off to preserve Downton's reputation. Also, I thought it was pretty unbelievable that after spending nearly three seasons presenting Thomas as a one-dimensional, slimy, and conniving character we are suddenly supposed to be all sympathetic toward him. This is a series about a shallow, self-absorbed, uninteresting group of people (probably a good representation of many in this social class at that time).

Report Abuse

Robert Streetman Jr.

February 15, 2013  5:50pm

I agree with Mr. Roseboom's comments. It was disappointing to see an otherwise entertaining show subject itself to political correctness at the expense of accurate representation. Wouldn't the lord of the manor have been as disturbed with homosexuality as prostitution? Shouldn't the review point this out? I love you my brother Todd, but I must say I am most disappointed that CT would see this as positive - even praise it. Are these articles reviewed by an Editor-in-Chief? I'm now wondering how theologically liberal CT has become. Very disappointing. Certainly not what the church needs.

Report Abuse

GARY ROSEBOOM

February 15, 2013  4:09pm

CT readers who hold to the historic, orthodox (and, for all practical purposes, universally held till recent years) position on homosexuality would not appreciate the very 21st-century approach to the character of Thomas Barrow. In fact, it was so politically correct and out of historical context -- not to mention anti-scriptural -- that my wife and I decided that we cannot in good conscience watch the finale.

Report Abuse

DiverCity Jones

February 15, 2013  12:40pm

Nice review of season 3 so far. My only quibble concerns my divergent recollection of Isobel Crawley's interaction with the housemaid who took umbrage at Ellen having been hired -- didn't the housemaid quit of her own accord? Of course, I also recall that the housemaid was quite surprised when Mrs. Crawley accepted her resignation. What a great television series!

Report Abuse

View this article in Reader Mode