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I can see the importance of truthful disclosures when it comes to faith based organizations. I however think that this article was reaching to make points which seemed to have little substance. I have news for anyone who has overlooked the obvious here...we are imperfect and fallen human beings (aka sinners!). There will never be a perfect church here on earth until Jesus sets up His 1,000 year reign! A real manifestation of the Lord is how He uses us (very imperfect implements) to produce perfect results! How about getting out there in the streets and among everyday people and living true to the Word of God! CC has been a vehicle God has utilized to bring countless smelly hippy, pot smoking, speed dropping freaks (you know...the ones most 'believers' pretended not to see as we looked down our noses at them in public) to Jesus. How much better off they were than many pew warmers of their time! Let’s not forget the purpose for which He created us…to bring glory to Him!

left, You are right. Phoenix Preacher is a pointless read now. It's pretty worthless and doesn't serve purpose anymore because the CC pastors all befriended and bewitched Newnham. They force strong views to be marginalized and do the typical "we're the authorities on God" routine to the same people that escaped the CC cult. I'm sure this post will be considered for posting over there, and it will be derided thoroughly.

I was there too years ago when Chuck spoke of Richard Nixon as God's man. It used to bother me too that he promoted his political agenda during his preaching. One thing important to say is that the person responsible for "reaching the hippies" during the Jesus Movement was really Lonnie Frisbee, the hippie preacher. That's been swept under the carpet, since he later died of aids. Calvary would not have "exploded" like it did without Lonnie, and I can't believe it when he is not given credit as the person the Holy Spirit used to reach the young people back then. Even Greg Laurie came to know Jesus through Lonnie's ministry. Thousands came in , but thousands left. It was definitely like a "cult" for me, not as extreme as alot of them are, but like a cult never the less. I lost touch with myself. And those of you who don't like Phoenix Preacher - hey you may now because it's become occupied with Calvary Chapel pastors ( and their agenda) who have befriended Michail N. there.

It does appear that this article has a slight edge to it that may not be needed. Folks we need to pray for Calvary Chapel as well as every church in America/the world! What is happening here does not undo all of the work God has done through this movement. God is bigger than any lawsuit, radio network, friends falling out, or ministers dealing with power or lust. I understand they are having an old fashioned tent revival at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, lets pray for a huge revival! Let's pray that God does it again in Southern California, we all need revival, start praying now!!! God Bless Calvary Chapel.

Joe, if you are still on staff or attend CCH, I am absolutely shocked and disgusted!!! You should be given the right foot of fellowship immediately for brining such a reviling accusation against Pastor Chuck and jumping into the fray of this ridiculous smear against elders in the church! If not, where is YOUR god using you today Joe? In some areas of the church and "Christianity today", we need Church Discipline, but still in others we need more and more Grace; What we don't need is devisivness and false accusations before the ungodly world! You are devisive man Joe and so are you Rob Moll! Along with every other person out there who calls themselves a believer in Jesus Christ but has taken to bringing accusations against pastors and leaders of the church (any church), without having a shread of proof and not in the mouth of two or three witnesses. Consider yourself rebuked!!! 5 stars for trashy journalism at its finest!