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With respect to Saul Alinsky, the political 'right' uses him as well. 'Freedom Works', a tea party group, uses Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' to train its organizers. [http://www.freedomworks.org/news/albanys-freedomworks-manager-trains-group ] "FreedomWorks is the best in the business at grassroots organizing."—Glenn Beck, conservative radio and TV personality [http://www.freedomworks.org/about/about-freedomworks] So it is not just liberals who use a 'satanist'. And speaking of secular humanism, many in the political/religious right (including Paul Ryan) were influenced by the atheist Ayn Rand and her own brand of 'secular humanism. So it would seem that atheistic 'secular humanism' has its claws in the conservatives as well as the liberals.

Jon, I've had the same thought as you about over-posting. But I do need to clear up some false accusations here: I've never said that Obama's mother and grandmother were communists - his mother and grandFATHER were staunch communists and reared him to idolize communists. Frank Marshall Davis was one such major Communist influence. Another false accusation is that Fox News has anything to do with my posts - in FACT, I am not a FN watcher. BTW - speaking of pejoratives, I have noticed that Fox News IS used OFTEN in a pejorative way in the very same manner as you use it - to dismiss information which is TRUE and VITAL to our nation's future. I know you'll find a way to heap scorn on that fact, but it IS a clear and undeniable fact. ALSO, you just love to play that "South card", don't you? There has been much-needed investigation into dead voters voting, people voting more than once, etc, in MANY states, including CO, NV, and IL (and more). Give that falsely biased card a rest, man.

Jon, it is a clear, proven fact that Saul Alinsky cited Satan as his role model - nothing anyone can say about that can change that fact. It is also a fact that Alinsky has been a role model for Bill Ayers, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama. This is not using Alinsky's name as a "pejorative" - it's just a fact.

The two candidates amazingly agree on the following: NDAA, Patriot Act, American military presence in the Middle East, Aggressive American interference in foreign affairs, Keeping the Fed, Maintaining the bloated & wasteful military budget, Oil drilling on Federal lands, (Not) reducing US dependence on oil, Keystone XL pipeline, No Single Payer universal health insurance coverage, Drone strikes, Prosecuting Wall St Bankers (there hasn't been any), Corporate personhood, LE harassment of medical marijuana users, Not raising the minimum wage, Wiretapping, Gtmo bay

Folks who cite the names of other folks in the same pejorative way they say "commie pinko" or "Muslim" leave me shaking my head. I learned this lesson myself decades ago when I used to use "Soren Kierkegaard" as a phrase for someone who had entered the realm of the irrational. Turns out once I read Kierkegaard I found someone not only deeply thoughtful but also a spiritual mentor. Not suggesting Saul Alinsky is equivalent to Soren Kierkegaard... but I strongly suspect he's not Satan's little helper, either. There are a lot of thoughtful people in the world who, even if they are wrong on many things, may just also know something deeply right. And to quote someone else, "That's all I'm going to say about that."