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What Does Hillary Believe?

She is in lockstep with the United Methodist Church on almost all issues, says Paul Kengor, author of God and Hillary Clinton.

Interview by Rob Moll | posted 12/11/2007 07:44AM

Paul Kengor has written spiritual biographies of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. A professor at Grove City College, Kengor recently published God and Hillary Clinton.

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Here we go again

Posted: December 23, 2007 7:24 PM

When we risk the mother's life? What mother would choose her own life over that of her baby? Any group of people can call themselves Christians. True Christians gladly would lay down their lives for another, how much more their own child. Hillary like Obama and the entire socialist movement despise religion and Christianity in particular. To quote their idol.."religion is the opiate of the masses"... "They profess me with their mouths but their hearts are far from me". The closer one draws to the abortion clinic I'd wager the further their hearts are from God.

Steve

Posted: December 23, 2007 9:49 AM


Me thinks they protest too much. I thought the article was pretty generous toward Hillary.

Sola Fide

Posted: December 23, 2007 3:45 AM

Was this article a quota? I think some of the comments are written better than the article itslef. The majority of the issues that were brought up in the article have so much to do WITH the getting elected, but her term swivels on basic aspects that every president DEALS with. I am glad people can name the sins and judge so freely, but when it comes down to the base of every belief we are humans. Welcome to America land of the free and home of the brave, but realize we are FREE. Sometimes we want to be represented by a person, and not just a figure head. Isn't that the true issue in today's society. Entirety is an overused word, just think Sola Fide!

Jessica

Posted: December 21, 2007 5:45 PM

Hillary Clinton is the consumate politician and because of that she absolutely cannot be trusted. She allowed her daughter to go through the humiliation of the Monica Lewinsky scandal still living with the philanderer so that she could someday run for President of the United States. She, being so savvy, knew that the country might elect a woman president but a divorced woman president would probably not work. So she supported the man, which sent a tremendously twisted message to an impressionable young girl so that she, Hilary, could reach her own goals. There used to be an expression, "He would sell his own mother for......." Hilary sold out her self esteem and dignity and showed by her example to her daughter that a career goal is far more worthwhile than a home/family life of honesty and integrity. John Wesley would look at the Clintons and pray for them and deeply pity them. They ARE more to be pitied than anything else. They are the ultimate dysfunctional family.

Stephanie

Posted: December 21, 2007 5:25 PM


The author of this article really downplayed the evil nature of Ms. Clinton. She is rabidly pro-abortion and once stated that " It is God's law to kill babies" ( The Life Advocate 1993). She is the moral equivalent to Jezebel. Politically she's a Socialist. Hillary is a dangerous force to be reckoned with, and American's need to wake up and realize , that to vote for her, is to sin againist God.

Ron g.

Posted: December 21, 2007 2:22 PM

80% of our nation claim to be Christian, but actual beliefs are all over the place, and Hillary seems to be no different. lying is a sin, stealing is a sin, adultry is a sin, homosexuality is a sin, and the big one placing anything above God is a SIN. One post says the church needs to keep up with the modern times. No No No. The bible is as modern as it gets period. Its really simple 1. God loves you and has a plan for you life and afterlife 2. We are all sinful and separated from God 3. Jesus is God's only provision for our sin 4, We must individually receive Jesus as Savior and Lord. And all sinners are welcome in Gods family....If Hillary has done that she needs to say so. When she is ask a spiritual question (rare by the soft ball press) she ducks it. I agree with her that we need to help the poor, but I dont agree on her method for doing that.

jfreak64

Posted: December 20, 2007 2:54 PM


This article seems to suggest that the Methodist church supports abortion. Is this a true statement?

jfreak64

Posted: December 20, 2007 2:53 PM


This article seems to suggest that the Methodist church supports abortion. Is this a true statement?

jfreak64

Posted: December 20, 2007 2:51 PM


This article seems to represent the Methodist church as promoting abortion. Is that a true statement?

J.K.	Posted: December 20, 2007 11:36 AM

Is there an evidence of a personnal relationship with the Savior. She may be "moral", but many moral people are going to hell, so lets be real. Dig a little deeper, instead of scratching the surface of someones character, especially someone who's running our country. So maybe instead of being "politically correct" with your veiws choose a side and stick to it, itstead of making people like Hillary Clinton look like a Saint, take a risk, offend for the sake of Christ!!!!!

Chicky

Posted: December 19, 2007 11:05 PM

The United Methodist Church does not believe in wholesale, legalized abortion. Our social principles make it clear we do NOT support abortion as a means of birth control. Only when the pregnancy would risk the mother's life, or if the fetus has a birth defect that is incompatible with life, do we support even considering abortion. Read the Discipline before making such a wide-ranging statement. This brings up another topic: Is abortion the ONLY issue in this country? I have to wonder, sometimes. If we address the underlying sin, abortion will take care of itself. Offer them Christ, in other words. He is the only real remedy. Having said that, I must also say I don't support Hillary, mostly because the woman is 135 pounds of naked, grasping ambition. She is, I fear, only concerned with what is good for Hillary, not the USA. Not what we need in a president. Pray for her. She needs it.

Ally	Posted: December 19, 2007 5:04 PM

This article would lead one to believe that Hilary represents the rank and file United Methodist constituency. I can assure that she does not. Yes, there are many UMs whose theology and beliefs would fall in line with hers. But most of us follow beliefs which are firmly grounded in scripture, the UM Book of Discipline and our Wesleyan-Arminian roots. It's true that many leaders of the UM church are left-leaning, but many are not. The Council of Bishops and the directors of some of the UM agencies frequently espouse views which do not represent those of most Methodists. Most Methodists hold views which fall in line theologically with many evangelicals.

Terry Johns

Posted: December 18, 2007 10:58 PM


DOES SHE KNOW JESUS..........?

tin	Posted: December 18, 2007 7:16 PM


seems biased

Carson

Posted: December 16, 2007 5:43 AM

After having served as a United Methodist pastor for several years I can assure you that legalized abortion is in fact the position of the United Methodist denomination. The article is correct as far as I can tell. I don't think our political system allows for voting for the best candidate. The system weeds them out through the primary process. What is does allow is for us to vote for what we perceive to be the lesser of two evils. For reasons only God knows we have survived as a nation.

Christine

Posted: December 15, 2007 9:04 PM


I still remain dumbstruck that churches in America continue to allow politicians to use their premises as voter recruiting stations. What a betrayal of the gospel. The secularisation of the church is complete, you will never be able to speak against the system because you are part of the system.

Allan W.

Posted: December 15, 2007 12:47 PM

While I won't be voting for Hillary on the basis of politics, I found this article to be informative. I think the relationship of faith and politics is an important one to explore in a political candidate. It's by no means the most important one, though. Judy: right there with you on the social justice slams from the left. H.D.: Your comments are a bit off-topic. You bring up some topics that aren't related to this article.

Patricia

Posted: December 15, 2007 5:43 AM

In reading this article it appears the interviewer is attempting to cast Hillary in an unfavorable light. I find it interesting that behaviors that would , from someone else bring forth admiration and respect, can be seen so negatively...Forgiving her husband and maintaining her marriage vow is regarded as negative and suspect......interesting..... From everything I have seen and heard Hillary say, she truly loves her husband, despite his very public sin against her... and it was a gut -wrenching experience and hard decision to stay with this man who has been consistently unfaithful. Her emotinal pain and devotion to him is glossed over and totally ignored in this article. The woman also appears to have a true deep concern for social justice, which comes from her Methodist roots...yet again, rather than respecting the Wesleyan roots of this established faith, and respecting her upbringins as a plus...her motives are suspect... I am afraid journalism on BOTH sides today is biased.

Anonymous

Posted: December 14, 2007 1:47 PM

I wonder if there will be a left wing liberal section and a right wing conservative section in heaven. It would be refreshing to have a candidate that bases life, decisions, and politics for that matter, on exactly what the Bible says is the truth. Not on thier lean, or intepretation of the truth that fits their circumstances. Some day, when the church unites on the principles of the Word of God, which sould be the fondation for any truth, that candidate may exist. Until then, I pray for wisdom from God to know which one will listen and obey when God speaks to their heart. That's who would get my vote.

Knudson

Posted: December 14, 2007 8:11 AM

AW--what does your argument really say about the state of Christianity then? ((We see "competing countries" meet needs, but those same countries have had a drastic drop in Christian fellowship. First rule of socialism, if the government is everything, the people don't need God.)) What does this really say? It suggest to me that the people who lost "Christian fellowship" were not much of Christians to begin with and couldn't we say the same for us? People need to stop thinking of God as a being that exists to shower us with gifts and security. I am not a Christian so that I can "get" something out of it. I'm a Christian because I think it makes me a more loving and moral person. If our society provided the basic social needs in life as the social democracies in Europe do, I would still have a relationship with God because my relationship with God extends far beyond simply seeing God as a security blanket.

Dee	Posted: December 14, 2007 5:15 AM


I find it ironic that the author doesn't talk about the fact that George Bush is also a Methodist Church member. These labels of "liberal", "conservative" and "evangelical" are dividing and will continue to divide us as a nation. To generalize the United Methodist denomination as liberal is a sad and mistaken misnomer. The Pharisees also thought they were the only ones who got it right.

Linda Hart-Anderson

Posted: December 13, 2007 11:56 PM

I really didn't learn a lot about Hilary's religious life. I have always assumed that she is a Christian activist. I have believed that she thinks as I do that the church being the body of Christ should be involved in government issues that directly or indirectly affect the people who are the body of Christ. As Christians we can't just separate ourselves from legislation that will bring relief and hope to children, single mothers, those who have been duped by unscrupulous lenders, etc. I pray that the book It Takes A Village is her truth claim. Also, I'm not naive enough to think that Hilary can't play ball with the big boys and girls in this world. Political service is rough and mind numbing, and it takes a committed person who knows where they are going and doesn't mind keeping some strange bedfellows (no pun intended).

Cal	Posted: December 13, 2007 6:31 PM

Hillary dishonest? What politician isn't! Elitist? I think we actually need to have elites in government because they actually know how to run things! Bush, with this cadre of dimwits from places like Liberty University and Bob Jones has gotten this country into an intractable war and put us $4 trillion more into debt with communist China holding over $1 trillion of it! And all you people who hate Hillary because she's pro-choice, you really need to get a clue. Abortion cannot be ended by simply banning it. Abortion is illegal in Brazil, and most other Latin American countries, yet the rate of abortions is two to three times higher there than in the U.S. Finally, government programs like social security, Medicaid, Head Start, and WIC are the main reasons for why poverty HAS declined over the last 50 years. Government must play a role. Before these gov't programs was the church adequately addressing poverty?--absolutely not! And they wouldn't now if those programs were eliminated.

Bob	Posted: December 13, 2007 11:05 AM

I guess perception is everything. I think the writer was anyhing but conservatively biased, particularly when he said that that "the Methodist Church officially supports legalized abortion." According to the UMC official web site (www.umc.org) the churche's official position would only support abortion in cases where the mother's life is endagered. I think he was trying to mislead readers on this to make her more attractive to mainline protestants. As for her political views, I do not find them biblical in nature at all. A systematic survey of the bible reveals that followers of Jesus Christ are called to support those in need and should be concerned about social issues as well as evangelism. Neither is the role of government. Biblically speaking, government exists to protect us from evil and insure justice (Romans 13:1-7). If we were not fallen people living in a fallen world we would need no government at all.

Susan

Posted: December 13, 2007 11:01 AM


I found this article to be VERY helpful in sorting through Hillary's "newfound" pseudo-religious conservativism. Thank you for the unbiased 'information only' article. I am a bit puzzled reading some of the comments of readers. Did you guys just skim the article rather than read it through??

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