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What's Up, Doc(ter)?
Pete Docter, director of the new Pixar film Up, says that as a Christian he's learned that relationships matter more than anything—and his new movie shows it.
| posted 5/26/2009


Pete Docter admits he wasn't the most socially proficient kid, and says that even today, he prefers to work alone and has to remind himself to connect with others.

Docter, director of the new Pixar film Up, gets those connections in his own family—he and wife Amanda have two children, Nicolas (12) and Elie (10)—and at the office, where the Pixar team considers itself very much a family. One of Pixar's originals, Docter helped create the characters and script for the Toy Story films, and wrote and directed Monsters Inc.

Carl and his house floating away
Carl and his house floating away

Up is the story of a lonely, curmudgeonly widower, Carl Fredricksen, who decides to escape the world's chaos by tying thousands of helium balloons to his home and floating away to paradise—all alone. But shortly into his trip, Carl learns he's not alone—a stowaway, a young boy named Russell, has unwittingly come along for the adventure. And along the way, both Carl and Russell learn some poignant lessons about life—and about the importance of relationships.

CT Movies caught up with Docter recently for a conversation about the film.

I hear the idea for Up partly sprung from a notion that it would be nice to be shipwrecked on a desert island and to escape the chaos of the world.

Docter: The genesis of it was that I'm not an extroverted guy. By the end of the day, a lot of times I just want to escape or get away from everything. So the idea of floating off into the sky seemed really intriguing. I think everybody can relate to that, and yet one of the most important things we can do is to connect with other people—and it's easy to lose track of that. And that's the message of the film, that Carl thinks he missed the real adventure in life by not going to these exotic places and seeing these fantastic sights. But in the end he learns that he had the best adventure of all—the adventure of the relationship that he had with his wife.

Why did you want Carl and Ellie to be a childless couple?

Docter: We needed it story-wise. The initial impetus was that by the time his wife dies, we wanted him utterly alone in his house, on his block. Then the outside world pushes in, and he repels them and floats away. As we developed the story and came up with the idea of Russell, it ended up doing a double service—they wanted to have kids but never were able to, and then this kid comes along and Carl becomes a kind of a father figure.

Is any of this autobiographical? Were you the adventurous scout type?

Docter: There was a creek not far from our house, and I pretended I was Indiana Jones or whatever, looking for treasure and things like that. Everybody has a little bit of that. But all this stuff ends up being somewhat autobiographical—whether the movies are about animals or bugs or fantastic beasts, we're always looking to find some humanity in them. We just kind of hunt around until we find something that resonates, that feels like, Yeah, I can relate to that. In Monsters Inc., Sulley was all about work—and I'm into my work. And then this kid comes along and really threw Sulley for a loop—and my son arrived right as I was starting on that film. [Docter's children are Nicolas, 12, and Ellie, 10.]

In Up, life had a way of hardening Carl. In what ways has life hardened you?

Docter: I don't know. I've led a pretty blessed life. There have certainly been setbacks along the way, but I can't really think of anything major. The closest thing I can come up with is just the idea of getting tired of people, which is really easy to do, especially those people we are so close with. Those are the ones you end up struggling with.

Family?

Docter: Family or close associates and friends at work. And yet I think struggle is essential to life.

Docter and Jordan Nagai, the voice of Russell
Docter and Jordan Nagai, the voice of Russell

Why?

Docter: It sharpens you. I think the worst thing is to go into coasting mode, just moving along but not really living, without really looking around—just closing yourself off and going forward. As an artist, it seems that the more you bump into other people, even though you hate it, it makes for a better person and better art. On this film, every time I'd have to show it to John [Lasseter] or Andrew [Stanton], I would hate it because I just want to be left alone and make the movie. And yet when once I do show it to them, it made it so much better, especially hearing their comments. They're great filmmakers themselves, and we have this great system at Pixar where we show each other our work about every four or five months and get feedback from all those guys. They're such amazing filmmakers. To get comments from them is fantastic.



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Frank Hope   Posted: June 15, 2009 4:29 PM
Great interview Mark. I used it to write my own review of the movie which I called "The Spirit of Pixar’s UP". http://futurenewstoday.blogspot.com/2009/06/spirit-of-pixars-up.htm l I hope you get a chance to look at it. I explore some of the Christian symbolism in this latest Pixar movie. It's interesting to me that both Andrew Stanton, the director of WALL-E, and Pete Docter, the director of UP, are Christians.

adam martin   Posted: June 11, 2009 11:34 PM
Wow, That is kind of cool I was talking about "teaching" False Teachings are in the films we watch if they have Worldlyness behind it which most do...I would recommend UP more than most other films running this month. LUCK is not a word that computes here. The Lord Reigns and luck would mean it just happened for whatever reason-The Lord even knows what the dice will come up..Sorry NO LUCK involved.proverbs 16:33. You are there Docter for a reason and He knows why..

Nora Charles   Posted: June 04, 2009 12:13 AM
Isn't it funny that some of the the most complex, philosophical and intelligent movies today come from Pixar who are making 'childrens' films? That's not to dismiss the wonderful work Pixar does, but to highlight the paucity of such films in the 'adult' genre of live action famous actors and famous directors. Whatever happened to Hollywood?

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