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So, what is the song about?

BuckleyPornography addiction. The topic itself isn't talked about enough, and it's so admirable to take that stand. In my past, pornography was a big problem, and now as a band all of us have accountability software in our computers, which anybody can download from their website. The whole key in the topic of church and pornography addiction is accountability, man. Just being open to talk about it and say, "Man, I got 43 junk e-mails the other day. I was doing good deleting them, but I got to the last one and I opened it up and ended up looking at all these websites." Just be loving and say, "Let's ask God to forgive you for that and move on." It's a topic that needs to be talked about lovingly and forgivingly. A couple years ago at a Promise Keepers event, there was a call for all men that dabbled in pornography, whether Internet or magazines, in the last seven days, to raise their hands, and 80% of the men responded.

Why the openness?

BuckleyThe only reason I feel so open to talk about it is that we've hidden it for so long. It's started to consume so many people. And being open is sometimes harder than being accountable. We can stay on top of each other and pray for each other. But being honest and open with someone is a completely different issue. I have that issue with my wife, telling her everything and being transparent about this problem.

Do Pillar fans relate to the issue of pornography, and if so, do they ask for advice?

BuckleyDefinitely. We receive e-mails about it. We talk to our fans at shows. They come up to us and ask to talk to us in private. We feel like counselors sometimes. We're talking to some of these kids in a secluded backroom, and they break down and cry and tell us of their problem with pornography. It's tough to be in those situations. I'm not the best at talking to people about this, but it's ultimately very cool. I talked with this one couple one time who had problem with Internet pornography as a couple, and our song "Behind Closed Doors" helped them set the stage to be open and talk to us. We talked, and I got to pray with them. Those are the type of things that make this gig worthwhile.

Was pornography ever a big factor in your life?

BeckleyYeah. That's the reason why I'm excited to work with the guys at XXXChurch, because of all that pornography did to me. Before I was a Christian, about six years ago, I was spending lots of money in strip clubs and adult entertainment. The big thing that pulled me out of this lifestyle was moving to a little town that didn't have anything to tempt me. When I used to live in the city environment, that was part of my lifestyle. Just spending a couple of hundred bucks a night on easy entertainment.

At that point, were you aware of the damage that it was inflicting upon you?

BuckleyNo. I was completely blind to it. If you would've told me it was damaging me, I would have been like, "Whatever, dude. I'm having fun!" But moving definitely helped me, as did a did a book written by Steve Gallagher from Pure Life Ministries, in which he tells his story of how God gave him freedom from his addiction.

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