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Bryan College Faculty Vote 'No Confidence' in President over Adam and Eve

Trustees defend decision to clarify belief statement. BioLogos: '[We] certainly did not intend to stir up controversy.'
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Bryan College faculty overwhelmingly issued the first no-confidence vote against their president in school history after trustees clarified the creationist nature of the school's Statement of Belief.

The statement, which all faculty and staff ...

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THOMAS F HARKINS JR

March 13, 2014  10:11am

Henry, I agree with you that there are true Christians who believe in evolution, including one of my heroes, C.S. Lewis. However, just because a true Christian may believe something does not make the belief a "Christian" one. Every one of us, including myself, have erroneous views on various issues pertinent to Christianity (such as the multiple theories about "end times," speaking in "tongues," predestination versus free choice, etc.). What I maintain, however, is that ultimately there is in most cases a "scriptural" answer to these debates, difficult as it may be to ascertain what it is. In the case of evolution, having read through scripture many times (as you have), and having at least a rudimentary knowledge of science and evolution-related literature, I believe the correct scriptural answer is that there was no evolution as popularly presented. So, while I am not inerrant, it is my considered opinion that evolution is not scriptural, though some Christians believe it.

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gordon payne

March 13, 2014  5:53am

If one can escape the modernist penchant for a material monism and recognize the Biblical description of flesh and spirit, evolution, as such, can be sustained while maintaining special creation. The only 'spirit' in plant life is that of personification. Likewise, man is the only creature made 'in the image of God', the only creature given a faculty for moral capacity, all others driven by impulse, custom or habit, a routine often confused with man in his 'natural' proclivity to the same. So called 'evolution', so wrapped up in the 'flesh', has yet to get beyond sparks in dealing with personality, much less spirit, much less grace. Its primitive nature is betrayed by its method of proof, limited to a testing that cannot establish a 'fact' emerging from a single occurrence. That is why the Bible is, first a 'writing', then something more than narrative, both requiring a 'spiritual' 'understanding', and there emerging from more than an oral tradition, from Revelation. Science follows.

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Henry Friesen

March 12, 2014  8:46pm

Interesting response regarding the meaning of death, Thomas. Your last sentence, though, is thought provoking. You say that there is a clear choice between believing scriptural views of origins verses the evolutionary one. Indeed. I haver read through the whole bible over twenty times in as many years, am a believer in God's message, and scripture. However, I have also read science, and devout Christians who are scientists, or aquainted with the matter. Are you saying that a Christian has to accept your view of scripture regarding origins, or they cannot be a real Christian? There ares a host of sincere Christians (they believe) who understand that the mechanism used by God to create his cosmos is evolutionary evolutionary science. Earlier on in these posts a list of some of those was made. C. S. Lewis, Francis Collins, John Stott and many others.

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THOMAS F HARKINS JR

March 12, 2014  6:24pm

Matheuszik, as to your response to LL N, I think we can easily say that plant "death" is not what scripture has in mind when Paul says, "Since by man came death." Obviously the plants were given for food in the Garden. Also, micro-organisms highly likely have no "consciousness" which can reasonably be said to "die." Almost certainly what Paul had in mind was the death of "sentient beings." As to that, evolution is clearly contrary to scripture with respect to millions of years of predation and "survival." In fact, evolution even has homo-type beings dying hundreds of thousands of years ago. So, there really is a clear choice which has to be made between believing the scriptural view of origins versus an evolutionary one.

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Darren Exendine

March 12, 2014  3:15pm

At times like these I ponder what God really would do if he was sitting here reading these comments. Like wayward children we argue points at which on a cosmic scale we have such limited information. I am in awe at the wonders of this universe, the social challenge of a world just trying to survive. The fervency of science to prove their Hypothesis. Moral teachers working fervency to persuade precious humans to value righteousness. In all our differences, the whole of humanity has at their core the self-preservation desires to take care of only their personal desires. The reality is we are all lost and looking for justification of our existence. In all my years, one thing I have experienced is the inerrant truth of Gods Word. The principals of which it teaches, the results of which can be easily tested, the political self-serving disintegration of government testifies of our need for its truth. Sad to see; the human way is to self-destruct or kill each other then find God. Darren

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