Erwin McManus at Catalyst: Formulas Don't Work

The following is from Jennifer Oxford, one of our Leadership team in Atlanta for the Catalyst Conference.

Erwin McManus took stage and continued to expound upon the very clear message of the entire Catalyst event...that it's not about formulas...the church, I mean. That there are no formulas that will enable a church to structurally meet every person's needs. Currently, when a new believer joins a church they are plugged into the structure where the church needs them most. They are discipled and led in ways that make them all look the same. For people outside of the church, who inherently know (and cling to the fact that) we are all unique, the sameness of the church, and the structure that they are potentially being asked to fit into doesn't work.

God made us each with our own passions, desires, visions and gifts. As with any Erwin message I've heard before (which sums a total of three including this one–all of which I have cherished by listening to and sharing the CDs long after the live version) he hits many different topics all in the same vein, and addresses them all singly to culminate in a full circle message.

Erwin underlined the idea that in order for a church to meet the needs of such a diverse group it needs to give up being so structured around what a church "needs" to look like, or the programs it "ought" to have or the formulas that it "should" use. He shared stories of his daughter and son to demonstrate on a small scale how different people in the same family (i.e., body of Christ) have been made. Mia is kind-hearted and filled with mercy; she feels badly if she doesn't kiss and hug every stuffed animal in her bedroom good night, for she might hurt one of their feelings. His son demonstrates a gift of maturity and wisdom beyond his years, in some senses, and has the gift of great foresight, offering his dad reasons why certain actions in his hockey game might not be the best because they "won't matter in 20 years." Erwin also presented some pretty cool film-like videos from the Mosaic team hitting home the message that we need to look outside our safe structures and limit what a Christian looks like (just like ourselves, of course!) in order to be Christ to a hurting world.

Another thing he said really resonated with me. It concerns a world the church has been using quite often lately. It sounds like a good word (probably in the same way the world uses the word "peace" to mean different things that Jesus would mean) but ultimately implies things that we don't really mean to mean. The word is revelant. Erwin said that the church tries too hard to be relevant. He expounded that the word in itself implies that someone else has already arrived or done something; that anyone thereafter must link or join to. Anyone after the first has to also find ways to add on some value to the foundation already built. He said that the church (who has all of the power of Christ, and inherently the ability to do anything in God's will) should never try to be relevant. Instead the church should be setting the curve for the culture to follow. Wouldn't it be great if the church was doing so many great things that the culture took notice and was in hot pursuit to add on to what we were doing? I agree: Jesus was not relevant, he was real, he was revolutionary. He was not connected to anything else, except the Father, and that is what made him so much more than anything that was, or is, relevant.

October 09, 2005

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October 25, 2005  1:08pm

Jen, would you please give me the details for that video clip? the movie doesn't ring a bell for me.

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Martha Gail

October 13, 2005  10:44pm

It doesn't fix anything. . .but, if I remember correctly from seminary days, Erwin himself is from El Salvador. He might smile at being called a "white" male.

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Bernie Dehler

October 11, 2005  4:43pm

Sounds like a lot of common sense. I think one thing that the "church" definitely needs to change (relevence) is the standard format of sitting in a pew and listening to a windy lecture for 30 minutes or longer. It would be nice to be more interactive as a body, like a small group is. There's no need for this boring format. It just turns people off, esp. the younger generation. ...Bernie

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Sharla Bickley

October 11, 2005  4:04pm

I was challenged by Erwin on diversity, but is the Catalyst team? I had to chuckle as he piled on the stark realities of so many Christian churches represented at Catalyst. The speakers were all white males. The worship team were all white males and one white female. I've attended 2 other Catalyst events and this one was the least diverse of all.....what direction is Catalyst heading?

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