
Listen Up, People: Remember Chick-fil-A Next Time You See Any Bullying

The Seminary Gender Gap

I picked a heck of a week to eat my first (and second) Chick-fil-A. The first was eaten innocently enough: I found a free coupon that expired that same day. Though I am not a huge fan of chicken sandwiches, I am a huge fan of free things.
But by the time I got back home and began munching away, I noticed a stream thick with anti-Chick-fil-A sentiment running through my Twitter feed. Chick-fil-A controversy had re-erupted: an old story about Chick-fil-A's CEO, Dan Cathy, and his donations to and verbal support of organizations advocating for legal marriage between a man and a woman got a fresh coat of ink. People like Billy Graham, Mike Huckabee, and Antoine Dodson (video above) released statements in support of the fast-food chain.
And according to what I read, I had not simply eaten a sandwich. I had made a huge statement: I hated gay people.
Since I do not in fact hate gay people and since I understood why people would be upset with Cathy's words and donations, I wondered if the crispy, pickle-y yumminess of the sandwich was worth it. Boycotts will be boycotts—they rage and tumble and then wear themselves out—but sometimes they do really matter.
But then it all got messier than a pit bull stepping in spilled Chick-fil-A sauce (not that I know). No sooner had my sandwich digested, it seemed, than the controversy became more than boycott or a "kiss-in." It became about free speech and totalitarian aldermen and mayors and Rutgers-esque bully-bloggers. And my libertarian streak got twitchy.
Of Cathy's traditional-marriage stance, Chicago Alderman Proco "Joe" Moreno (1st Ward) wrote in the Chicago Tribune, "There are consequences for one's actions, statements and beliefs. Because of this man's ignorance, I will deny Chick-fil-A a permit to open a restaurant in my ward." Moreno actually says, his decision is "me taking a stand." It's a stand that shows Moreno's frightening ignorance of the Constitution.
I'd love to have written this off as another shining example of idiot Illinois politics, but then the mayor of Boston got into the game, writing a letter to Cathy saying, "I was angry to learn on the heels of your prejudiced statements about your search for a site to locate in Boston … There is no place for discrimination on Boston's Freedom Trail and no place for your company alongside it." Well, no place for certain types of discrimination, at least.
And I would love for this to have been a purely political problem but after evangelical writer and speaker Jonathan Merritt publicly defended Chick-fil-A, his friend (or, once-friend) Azariah Southworth—a former evangelical, now agnostic—"outed" Merritt as a gay man based on "the importance of living an authentic and honest life."




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Neoma Dellinger
we can harness it as a cry of cross-cultural solidarity and community.
Idell Stpierre
you demand books be removed from high school syllabi. Remember the Chick-fil-A before outing another person for whatever through gossip or rumor or prayer request.
Paul Bryce
Had the tough task as an elder of dealing with a repentant pedophile in our church membership. I have 4 small children and it brought out a side in me that I can only assume was created in me as a Father to protect my children. We as Elders sat him down and laid out strict ground rules on his ability to socialize with anyone under 18 in our church. We also lectured him as any concerned Parent would and let him know that we love him but have a zero tolerance under the authority placed in us to protect all members of the Church. I don't know why we don't do the same for repeat divorcee's etc... they also damage other people? He was also given several chaperones who had to be with him at all times. At one point I remember him starting to make some comment about feeling we don't trust him and I shut him down hard with "yes we do not and you need to show some humility in this situation and follow our authority". I know he attended for about a year but not sure what happened after that? I need to follow up on him.
paul bryce
I don't mind the badge "another one" since I couldn't stand just being "one" that goes along with the culture.Absolutely agree, you had better know the circumstances around a situation before you pass judgement. (Christian on Christian is the only area we are allowed to judge - lovingly) Unfortunately that has led to an attitude in our culture that is all grace and no law. Since grace cannot exist with no law that is a problem. (if God does not tell you it is a sin you don't know it is a sin) I had a co-worker years ago who was dealing with a divorce and remarriage and he was not a Christian but had a church upbringing. In discussion I pointed out to him that his current situation was not ideal because of sin and that now he was dealing with consequences ie, alimony, visitations, ex-spouse and so on. I was impressed that he actually recognized that and commented that ideally he would not have wanted to be in that situation. We need to be able to share the hope of what life can be in Christ instead of wallowing in the sin that we are in and patting each other on the back while offering some meaningless platitudes. We need to recognize sin and turn 360 degrees away from it not just go right back into it and expect the outcome to be any different than last time. I sympathize with the circumstances you shared above and we need to show love and share Jesus before we teach the Law with Grace. But if we never teach the law they will be like the parable of the thorns that grew up and choked out the wheat because they don't know any other way than the one of sin that got them in their mess in the first place. Before the individual you mentioned above got herself into the state of sin that she now finds herself she made active choices to be there that did not include God. Now wait a minute you say what about a small child that is just carried down that road by the lifestyle of their parents/parent (parent being used loosely here)? I don't presume to know that much about generational sin but it is evident in the Bible and God always provides a way out if we are willing to take it. Liam Neeson did a movie on the issue of sex trafficking and one thing that struck me about how his daughter got in the mess in the first place was because she did not come from a solid stable God fearing home. As a result of her parents divorce her fathers wise council (mothers foolish values) was ignored. She made foolish decisions based on our feminist culture and had to deal with the consequences. Tough conversation on your parents but I am "another one". Let me ask you this, was your mom walking solidly with the Lord and looking for man who was a Godly man when she married your Dad? I remember a pastor telling my wife and I in marriage counselling that he sees a lot of young women in the church who marry men who are at best lukewarm Christians and the usual end result is marriage problems. (it is actually personal spiritual problems that lead to marital problems)
Paul Bryce
People, you need to read the story with your brain turned on! Dan Cathy is not promoting hate of anything LGBT in the actions he has taken in his corporation. You are all showing the intolerance of the LGBT community and the message of hate towards anything or anyone that disagrees with them that they display at rallies, in commentaries and just about anywhere they can have a voice. There are many loving Christians who love LGBT people ( I once had a dance with a gay man) but do not accept their lifestyle and call it sin according to God's Word. I dont hate the single mom next door to me but the sin that led to her divorce and I would speak out against it. I don't hate the teenager in our Church who had a child out of wedlock but I am sure going to teach my child to be sexually pure for their husbands/wives someday. What is being missed here is the active open intolerance of the LGBT community as a whole worldwide!! I have seen it first hand at rallies I attended.
Constance Boyer
I used to enjoy Chick-fil-A meals. I don't anymore--primarily because I live somewhere where there are no Chick-fil-A restaurants. The boycott is OK--that's part of politics here in the USA, and an expected outcome of the SCOTUS Citizens United decision. I refuse, however, to demonize Chick-fil-A and its management on this topic. Not because I agree with them, but because as a sincere Christian who believes that God is big enough to love people in the LGBT community. Demonizing the "other" in gets the conversation absolutely nowhere. We cannot allow the logs or motes to be removed from our eyes through loving discussion if we are declaring the other to be a demon.
Paul Bryce
Canadian here. (apparenty we are the gay capital of the world) I am not proud of that and neither would many of the founders of this country who paid with their lives to have religious freedom. They were escaping religious persecution in their countries in Europe. I am going to be blunt to those calling themselves Christians on this website and espousing support for gay marriage. First God loves you and we are both sinners "but" the fruits of your lives which are the comments you make in support of gay marriage do not add up with a relationship with Jesus Christ. A friend I know put it well when he said there is no such thing as gay or honosexual just sexual immorality that includes sex before marriage sex outside marriage and sex with animals, same sex, plants etc.... (you know what I mean) No human being walking with the Lord openly ignores God's written word on this issue and the history behing why marriage is the best thing for humans. ( notice I don't define marriage as hetero or gay because marriage has been defined by God for 6,500 years and was created by him and no government can change that definition) You are in need of a personal relationship (friendship) with Jesus and I implore you to get things straight with your creator before it is too late. Love in Christ Paul
pelezico
@ Just Karen Now we are getting somewhere - LGBT is your reference point regarding your moral compass. Where as God wants to protect children you would rather exploit them for your own twisted purposes. You say Huhhh? LGBT have successfully campaigned to lower the sexual age of consent and more recently are now wanting to lower it in further to 14. LGBT are also campaigning to recognise INCEST as a legal practice between consenting peoples. http://www.petertatchell.net/lgbt_rights/age_of_consent/index.htm The Bible does say that whatsoever a man sows he will reap. Its a universal principle. However the issue with homosexuality is that Gods judgement is not fire and brimstone - not yet anyway In Romans 1 it says that He gives you over to a reprobate mind to do those things which are unseemly. Your mind becomes depraved, your moral compass twisted your conscience dulled. LGBT is the door that has allows all kinds of depravity. Next will have muslims campaigning to legalise polygamy in the UK. By what authority do we then say No. Well state authority is mute. By the by you accused me of being judgemental and saying that i do not have the right to judge only God has. Well by whos authority do you judge the paedophile?? Who told you that paedophilia is wrong? How dare you judge them? How dare you impose your values on them? As smell HYPOCRISY here. As long as someone is consenting Just Karen says - what a joke!! You try as do other LGBT to put a wonderful spin on your lifestyle but speaking to ex homos and lesbians i know that its not a nice world to live in. If theres any hope left turn to Christ immediately
Just Karen
@Pele Zico "Your sex is determined by your XY or XX. You do not have an admixture of the two - you are one or the other. Thats the help you need to determine your sex. Sex determination is not preferential and neither does a person have the right to determine whether they will act one way of the other. " There are many people with genetic disorders caused by having three (or more) chromosomes. Others (more than 1 in 20,000) have Androgen Insensitivity, and develop either some or all of the characteristics of being female. (Given the rarity of chromosomal testing, that means there are probably a half-dozen women in the US that are genetically XY.) As for your last comment... pedophiles (assuming you mean people that engage in sex with children) are a clear danger to society due to their willingness to engage in sexual acts with nonconsenting people (and consent cannot be given by a child any more than it can be by a toaster or turtle); they should not be tolerated. LGBT people, on the other hand, primarily engage in sexual acts with consenting adults (and if they don't, there are existing laws that cover that situation). Also, I'm not sure how linking an article about the AIDS epidemic helps your cause. Is it just to bring forth the idea that gay men are more likely to be HIV positive, and that it is therefore clearly it's a punishment from God? Because A: if that's the case you'd expect lesbians to have a high rate as well, and they don't (in fact, it's below the rate of infection for straight people); and B: If I remember correctly, the highest rates of infection in the world are in countries that are strongly Christian.
Pele Zico
@Just Karen Please review the following article - http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm So i too can google and show stuff that can easily defend my position however what does God say. The Bible says quite clearly that it is a sin - please read the following 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. [b] 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. [/b] This would include those who commit adultery, those who habitually look at pornography, those who beatup on their wives etc etc. Your sex is determined by your XY or XX. You do not have an admixture of the two - you are one or the other. Thats the help you need to determine your sex. Sex determination is not preferential and neither does a person have the right to determine whether they will act one way of the other. Whether you went thru emotional torment is not the issue. I am a married man but due to how i was raised was quite promiscuous. However Christ saved me and transformed me and when tempted (and sometimes the temptation can be strong at times) I "choose" thru faith in Christ never to give in to it. If i did id be a sorry mess today and no Christian. To do so or even say that somehow God loves me even though i am living in direct rebellion is wrong. The anti-dote is REPENTANCE. I must stress that though God agapes man (loves him despite his Evil self) his hatred for sin is directed towards the objects of sin. Its not "God hates the sin but loves the sinner". You wont find that in the Bible. He truly despises the sinner however He is yet compassionate towards the sinner wanting them to recieve forgiveness in Christ. His desire is that all will be saved though the Bible reveals that that many will perish because of....pride and arrogance. Your justification based on your emotional bias even though strong (I do feel for you especially in this depraved world we live in) is still a baseless justification. Paedophiles here in the UK are campaigning to be given the same treatment that is afforded to homosexuals and lesbians - rights of expression. There argument is much like yours in every way -"i was born this way", "i have a sexual appetite for children - so it must be natural", "i have always felt this way" etc etc etc Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
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