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audrey ruth

February 23, 2013  11:17am

S Griffin, I think Tim Fall's point was that there is no Biblical precedent (thus, no reason) for calling pastors' wives First Ladies. I have attended black churches where that did not happen. I have also attended a black church whose pastor is a woman, and her husband is not called the First Gentleman. It is also true that not all of the women in this TV show are black. Two of them are Caucasian.

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S Griffin

February 22, 2013  6:14pm

Tim Fall, you do realize that in black churches the pastor's wife is referred to as the "First Lady"? Not sure when it started but that's how it's been since I was a child. You also have a "Church Mother" who is the oldest mother in the church.

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audrey ruth

February 22, 2013  6:02pm

Having watched a few of these episodes and praying for these women (and their husbands and churches) as I did so, I have to agree with Jim Ricker. It saddens me to see such blatant (and not only accepted, but even expected) materialism in these families and churches. The "kingdom" statements some of these women make seem to imply that they are above reproach -- I don't see much humility here. One husband/former pastor said something to the effect of "You haven't been married until the law has been called to your house." Really??? The pastor's wife who wanted a ritzy bachelorette party before she and her husband renewed their vows, and proceeded to come on to strange men during it, before she looked up her former pimp (I'm not kidding) almost took the cake. But, really, the worst thing of all seems to be the hateful attitudes/downright cattiness among these women. I don't see any "sister" relationships at all -- mainly what seems to be rivalries. It's beyond sad.

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JULIA STEIN

February 14, 2013  1:52pm

I am a wife and a pastor. It occurred to me while reading this article that perhaps the men out there who are finding themselves "pastor's wives" may be able to help buck the steriotype of what it looks like to be the spouse of a pastor.

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Loreli Cockram

February 13, 2013  2:46pm

I am a pastor's wife... This article REALLY made me process what my "role," "position," "identity" is! There are stereotypes of pastor's wives that have clouded the way and I'd like to propose a NEW understanding. Had to write a blog about it: http://wp.me/phCVA-zf Thanks for getting the conversation started! *Loreli*

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