Rich Stearns wants to flip the script on leadership.

In his new book, Lead Like it Matters to God, he writes that God doesn’t actually look for success. He looks for faithfulness.

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How God uses seasons in the wilderness (in Rich’s case, getting fired twice in one year!) to refine our hearts

Why faithfulness is more important that success

Why it’s freeing to surrender your career

What humility really looks like in the workplace

The one superpower every leader can and should use

What the best organizations do in impoverishes communities

How development work has changed in the last 50 years

Questions we asked Rich:

How is this leadership book different?

Which values should young professionals, especially those working in a humanitarian or justice field, work on first?

What if I feel called, but can’t find a job in that area?

How can we know when it’s time to move from private sector to nonprofit?

How do we think through both the immediate and structural barriers to eliminating poverty?


Rich’s podcast: Lead Like It Matters to God

"On Being a Good Neighbor", sermon draft by the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

´╗┐This episode produced by Laura Finch

Theme Song “Turning Over Tables” by The Brilliance

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(Note to the listener: In this podcast, sometimes we'll have evangelicals, sometimes we won't. We think learning how to do good better involves listening to lots of perspectives, with different insights and understanding with us. Sometimes it will make us uncomfortable, sometimes we'll agree, sometimes we won't. We think that's good. We want to listen for correction. Especially in our blind spots.)