On this episode of the podcast, Jared Wilson and Ronnie Martin reflect on the ways the less exciting and less interesting aspects of ministry can be some of the most critical places for us to show up and serve our congregations. Whether it's counseling at a hospital bedside or a short prayer in the hallway of a church, the ordinary, everyday work of pastoring may not be the most glamorous or thrilling, but it can be the very thing God uses to reach and transform his church.

The Art of Pastoring is a production of Christianity Today.

Produced by Mike Cosper

Edited and Mixed by Aaron Leslie

Theme Song "Guide Me O Thou Great Jehovah" by Jeremy Casella