This season has been a difficult one for many, and particularly those who make their living in and around music and performance. Matthew Perryman Jones has been writing songs for over twenty years and this season of slow taught him a great deal about patience. Sandra and Matthew met in her backyard to record this episode, and talked about how patience showed itself through the difficulties of 2020.

Steadfast is a production of Sandra McCracken in partnership with Christianity Today.

Produced by Sandra McCracken, Leslie Eiler Thompson

Written by Leslie Eiler Thompson

Edited by Andrew Osenga

Mastered by Mile Cosper

Music by Sandra McCracken