Podcast Episode 017, 53 min
Pastoral Transition with Gary Garcia, (Ep 17)
Karl Vaters and Gary Garcia have another conversation. This time, they talk about Pastoral Transition from a unique perspective. Karl was Gary’s lead pastor for 25 years, then Gary transitioned to being the lead pastor, while Karl stayed on the pastoral staff with him.

Karl Vaters: Let us begin. So Gary, welcome back to the podcast. Let's take a look at what we're going to do. Last time we talked, we talked about longevity. We talked about your longevity at the church, my longevity at the church. And first of all, whenever anybody ...

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Podcast Episode 016, 40 min
Pastoral Longevity and Ministry Partnership with Gary Garcia (Ep 16)
Karl Vaters and Gary Garcia have a unique relationship. They’ve worked together at the same church for 29 years. For the first 25 years Karl was Gary’s lead pastor. For the last 4 years Gary has been Karl’s lead pastor. Yes, at the same church.

Gary Garcia: I would tell pastors, man, stop chasing ministry and enjoy it. You know, that's one of the reasons I've lasted. I've enjoyed where I'm at. I've had so much fun doing ministry. Are there problems? Yes, we're, we're working with people. ...

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Podcast Episode 15, 46 min
Intentional Interim Pastors with Tom Harris (EP 15)
Karl Vaters talks with Tom Harris, the co-author of Soaring Between Pastors: 8 Actions to Thrive During a Pastoral Transition. Tom also serves as the president of IPM (Interim Pastor Ministries).

Tom Harris: Intentional disciple-making building into an individual or small group like Jesus did, and then teaching them to do the same.

Karl Vaters: Hi, I'm Karl Vaters and I'm a small church pastor. And welcome to Can This Work in a Small Church? My guest today is ...

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Podcast Episode 14, 40 min
The Value Of Long-Term Pastorates with Rich Brown (EP 14)
Karl Vaters interviews Rich Brown, the author of Extended Stays: A Closer Look at Longer Pastorates. He has served for decades as a pastor and in Christian higher education. Currently he serves with IPM (Interim Pastor Ministries).

RB: As I’ve talked to young graduates, fresh out of seminary, they didn't care anything about longevity. They heard about how to candidate, they heard about how to put out their resume, but they didn't hear anything about how to stay longer.

KV: Hi, I'm Karl ...

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Podcast Episode 13, 29 min
Small Churches In Denominational Leadership with Matt Henslee (EP 13)
Karl Vaters interviews Matt Henslee. In addition to being a small church pastor and authoring/co-authoring several books, Matt has recently been appointed to leadership in his denomination (Southern Baptist Conference) on both a regional and national level.

Matt Henslee: We need these small church pastors in leadership roles, because they do know what they're doing. They are doing incredible work. They're great preachers. They just are kind of out of the limelight.

Karl Vaters: Hi, I'm Karl Vaters and I'm a small ...

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Podcast Episode 12, 27 min
Small Church Pastor Personality Types with Jean Morgan (Ep 12)
Jean Morgan, a small church pastor who wrote a Masters thesis about the correlation between a pastor’s personality and the size of the church they serve.

Jean Morgan: More than two thirds of the pastors were actually in the right size church. They just knew that they were where they're supposed to be.

Karl Vaters: Hi, I'm KV and I'm a small church pastor. And welcome to Can This Work In A Small Church? My podcast guest ...

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Podcast Episode 011, 41 min
Trauma, Brain Science, and Ministry, with Lori Andrews, EP 011
My podcast guest this week is Lori Andrews, Ed.D. She and I talk about trauma, its effect on the brain, and how to use this information as we lead through challenging times.

Lori Andrews: It’s amazing to me: the more I learn about the brain, the more the Word of God becomes alive.

Karl Vaters: Hi, I'm Karl Vaters and I'm a small church pastor. And welcome to Can This Work in a Small Church? My podcast guest today is Lori Andrews and ...

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