I don't know how you did that.
And someday we will talk about that because you talk about self-control, which is really an important subject. Someday we'll get you back and talk about that, but you also have spent most of your professional life around writing and editing, particularly for Christian publications and Christian publishers and so on, including you hosting the Writing for a Change podcast.
So let's begin with, how did you get started on this idea of writing for ministry?
DD: You know, I had these big aspirations when I was in my early twenties that I wanted to be a writer. I did not know what that looked like. I also had this twin goal of wanting to serve the church in some way.
I didn't know what that would look like. So I started writing for various publications here and there as I could. I went to seminary and basically stumbled into being an editor. But the way I describe it to people now is yeah, I'm an editor. That's my day job. And then I moonlight as an author, you know, so when I can get some time away from the kids and carve out some weekends here and there to work on my own books.
I should say, though, I could do it all wrong. I've only written three books and I've spaced them out like five years apart, which is the worst way to do it because then everyone, except for your mom, forgets that you're a writer. And you have to tell them all over again.
KV: Yeah. Mine are completely random. The first one took me 53 years to write.
DD: That’s a long time.
KV: Yeah. The second one took me five. The next one took me what, two or three? And then the next one was like four months because I got a call from this guy named Drew Dyck going, “uh, there's this pandemic thing happening. And we'd like to put something out real quick that can help people.”
And somehow we were able to pull that sucker together real fast for The Church Recovery Guide.
So you write for ministry endeavors, and the primary audience for this podcast is pastors of course, pastors of small churches primarily. So if you've got a pastor out there who maybe preaches every Sunday, communicates well, is interested in writing for ministry. What, what are some of the first things that a pastor needs to start thinking about?
If they're going to be interested in writing for ministry?
DD: Yeah, good question. That's a big one too. There's a lot there, but I think the first thing is just to have the confidence to start. A lot of people don't, especially if you're not some nationally known figure or, you know, have a mega church or something like that, a lot of people feel like, well, who wants to hear from me?