And so we opened it up to nominations and got nominations from literally all over the country. Of our 12 preachers that we have, we haven't announced them yet, only one was chosen from outside of that nomination pool. And so all of them were nominated by fellow pastors. And so it opened my eyes to preachers I didn't even know about.
And so I feel like that was probably, it had less to do with how great Matt is. Matt's not that great. It's not how great May Hill is though Mayhill is great. But it is a small church that, you know, we give well, we do all of that kind of stuff, but it is small in that sense. I think there was this vision and a desire to say, look, the SBC is bigger than just the megachurch or this type of church, or just the city churches or whatever, but having a representation of rural, city, everything in between big church, small church, I think really resonated with people from all backgrounds and, and they got behind it.
KV: Everything you're talking about from the receiving of nominees to you being a small church pastor and heading it up, everything about it feels very much grassroots.
It feels like it is coming from the rank and file of the denomination, which as you said is, or at least I think you implied it at least, is we're kind of now acting according to what our theology has always said, which is that the size of church is not the determiner of health. But it sounds like maybe that message is actually getting through in the way we're behaving.
I'm hoping and praying that it is. One of the reasons I wanted you on is because when something like this happens - -
It's very easy to complain. It's very easy to sit back in a smaller congregation and whine about us not being represented. Or why is it always the same or why is it always that way? So I think it's really important for us to pause. And take a moment, even for those who are listening, who are not a part of your particular tribe, because that's not what this is about. This is about the recognition and the understanding that the action that is being taken now really is matching what we've said all along, that small churches are a value, but to follow it through with our actions is where it really says that we really are believing it now.