{"id":11171,"date":"2009-10-26T01:53:26","date_gmt":"2009-10-26T01:53:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/2009\/10\/26\/againstthecurrent\/"},"modified":"2009-10-26T01:53:26","modified_gmt":"2009-10-26T01:53:26","slug":"againstthecurrent","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/content\/againstthecurrent\/","title":{"rendered":"Against the Current"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>D<\/strong>aniel Hill admits that his initial interest in multi-ethnic ministry was fueled more by the novelty and popularity of the idea than a deep sense of calling. But when his interest didn&#8217;t wane, he knew he had to do something.<\/p><p>In 2003, Hill left a suburban megachurch to plant River City Community Church in Chicago&#8217;s Humboldt Park neighborhood. Founded by an intentionally diverse team of leaders, the congregation of 250 is now 60 percent white and 40 percent African, Latino, and Asian-American. Leadership spoke with Hill and River City&#8217;s multi-ethnic <em class=\"citation\">leadership<\/em> team about their unexpected challenges.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-question\">What kind of person is attracted to River City?<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-answer\"><strong>Hill:<\/strong> Most of our new people are white. But there&#8217;s a revolving door with the white community here. They have a romantic notion of being part of a multi-ethnic church, so many of them get frustrated and leave when they realize how difficult it is to release their assumptions about the way church is supposed to be.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-question\">What assumptions do white people carry into the church?<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-answer\"><strong>Arloa Sutter (pastor of community life):<\/strong> When I came I said, &#8220;Let&#8217;s just start small groups! Everybody wants to be in a group, right?&#8221; The fact is small groups aren&#8217;t as important to other ethnicities as they are to white people.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-question\">Small groups are a white church thing?<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-answer\"><strong>Hill:<\/strong> White people rely on small groups to connect. Other ethnicities form community more organically, more relationally. Immigrant communities find fellowship within extended families. In the city a lot of community happens on the front porch or sidewalk. So non-whites aren&#8217;t as eager to set up structures and systems like small groups.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-answer\"><strong>Carlos Ruiz (coordinator of community groups):<\/strong> I think whites really value efficiency.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-answer\"><strong>Antoine Taylor (director of Sunday morning ministries):<\/strong> And releasing that value is really hard for a lot of them. They perceive other ways of operating as inefficient or disorganized.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-answer\"><strong>Jennifer Ikoma-Motzko (elder):<\/strong> They say it&#8217;s not the right way to do church. And I respond bluntly by saying, &#8220;You mean it&#8217;s not the white way to do church.&#8221;<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-question\">You are committed to integrating everyone into the same worship gathering. Why not have services in different styles and languages?<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-answer\"><strong>Taylor:<\/strong> I came from a predominantly black church in a mostly Latino neighborhood. People would go to church on Sunday, come out of the building, and go straight to their cars. They didn&#8217;t engage the community. I felt that segregated services at River City would lead us to do the same thing. If we&#8217;re really going to grow a community, we need to be incorporated into one service. And yeah, it&#8217;s very rough, because it&#8217;s not about strategy. It&#8217;s about relationships.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-answer\"><strong>Sutter:<\/strong> We believe that being together is more important than being comfortable.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-question\">How does the leadership model this commitment?<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-answer\"><strong>Ikoma-Motzko:<\/strong> By giving up power. Minority culture people need to be in leadership and influence the way we do church. Being multi-ethnic means more than saying &#8220;Come be a part of the way we do worship and service.&#8221; It means releasing control, allowing others to shape what the church is doing.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-question\">How does economic diversity impact your church?<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-answer\"><strong>Hill:<\/strong> It&#8217;s actually harder than the racial stuff. Something as simple as planning a retreat becomes really complicated. The cost may be minimal for a two-income family, but a single parent or immigrant may lose a paycheck if they attend.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-answer\"><strong>Ikoma-Motzko:<\/strong> We may assume that everyone has access to a car or the internet. That just isn&#8217;t the case. Communicating and organizing across socio-economic groups isn&#8217;t easy.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-question\">Do you see barriers between people of the same ethnicity but different socio-economic status?<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-answer\"><strong>Ruiz:<\/strong> I deal with that all the time. I&#8217;m Mexican but I come from an upper middle class family. I moved to the States with a visa and went to school. One time I had a group of first generation immigrants in my car when a police officer drove past. I wasn&#8217;t worried about being pulled over. But they were. They don&#8217;t see me as having the same problems and challenges that they have. Ethnically I&#8217;m one of them, but economically and socially I&#8217;m not. That&#8217;s been hard for me to accept.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-question\">Some churches don&#8217;t pursue diversity because they fear it might slow down numeric growth. Have you found to be the case?<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-answer\"><strong>Hill:<\/strong> We know the formulas and strategies that make churches grow, and we could be larger, but it would be a mostly white church. That would be the price of growth. We&#8217;ve chosen to measure success differently.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-copyright\">Copyright &copy; 2009 by the author or Christianity Today\/<em class=\"citation\">Leadership<\/em> Journal.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/help\/permissions-privacy\/permissions.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"copyright\" rel=\"noopener\">Click here<\/a> for reprint information on <em class=\"citation\">Leadership<\/em> Journal.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Daniel Hill admits that his initial interest in multi-ethnic ministry was fueled more by the novelty and popularity of the idea than a deep sense of calling. 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