{"id":21020,"date":"2000-04-01T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2000-04-01T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/2000\/04\/01\/conversations-13\/"},"modified":"2000-04-01T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2000-04-01T00:00:00","slug":"conversations-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/content\/conversations-13\/","title":{"rendered":"Conversations"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading is-style-article-subhead1\">This Bird Has Blown It<\/h2><p>I was disappointed when I read John Beukema&#8217;s &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/le\/1999\/fall\/9l4097.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">Today&#8217;s Nesting Habits<\/a>&#8221; (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/le\/1999\/fall\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">Fall1999<\/a>). I have watched the sad trend of church hopping in the San Francisco Bay area. I hoped Beukema would offer suggestions to help people strengthen commitment to their church home.<\/p><p>Instead, Beukema has acquiesced to church hopping as normal behavior. He does list one or two special circumstances when it is healthy for a person or family to attend another church (e.g. when a recovery or youth program is not offered at the home church). But his acceptance of issues-avoiding hummingbirds, self-gratifying waxwings, and the passive-aggressive protests of ruffed grouses as acceptable migration is flabbergasting.<\/p><p>I can appreciate [Beukema&#8217;s] sense of loving and nurturing his flock the best he can. However, I just don&#8217;t believe it does them any good to encourage lack of commitment.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-source\"><em><strong>Bob Lane<\/strong>\nMenlo Park, California<\/em><\/p><p>Dear Bob:\nI appreciate the time you took to respond to my article. You make valid points, all of which I considered prior to writing. I did not intend the article as seriously as it seems to have been taken.<\/p><p>My intent was to present the reasons why people have more than one church home, and to consider that some of those reasons are healthy. I think as pastors we have an immediate negative reaction to polydomous people, and I was attempting to challenge that a bit.<\/p><p>What I left unstated, or at least not openly stated, is that I am not tolerant of the negative aspects of the polydomous.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-source\"><em><strong>John Beukema<\/strong>\nWestern Springs, Illinois<\/em><\/p><h2 class=\"wp-block-heading is-style-article-subhead1\">Approach with Caution<\/h2><p>I salute Donna Schaper for her bold article &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/le\/2000\/winter\/17.101.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">When Public Prayer Gets Too Personal<\/a>&#8221; (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/le\/2000\/winter\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">Winter 2000<\/a>). It is long, long overdue.<\/p><p>One Sunday I filled in for a sick pastor. The church secretary told me there would be a list of people to pray for on the pulpit. I dutifully read it and then followed with my own pastoral prayer. Several days later, I learned a woman whose name had been read from that list was very, very angry. All she had done was to go for a routine doctor&#8217;s appointment. Someone had seen her at the hospital and <em>assumed<\/em> that she needed (and wanted) their prayers.<\/p><p>During 32 years in the parish, I learned:<\/p><ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>always to ask the person or the family if the concern should be made public.<\/li>\n<li>never to give surgical or diagnostic details during public prayer. That should be left to the family&#8217;s discretion and in another place.<\/li>\n<li>always try, as Rev. Schaper did, to elevate parishioners&#8217; minds and hearts to the wideness of God&#8217;s mercy, to the depth of God&#8217;s compassion for all suffering and pain everywhere and for everyone. The individuals who need those words personally will get your message.<\/li>\n\n<\/ul><p class=\"is-style-article-source\"><em><strong>Emily B. Preston<\/strong><\/em><em>Jaffrey, New Hampshire<\/em><\/p><p>When I was studying for the priesthood, the Dean at times would pray very pointedly (in a public service) about some problem or another the seminary community was having. Then one professor was often heard to mumble, &#8220;Well he did it again. He prayed to God and at us.&#8221;<\/p><p>I never forgot that point, and it has served me well.<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-source\"><em><strong>Lynn Chester Edwards<\/strong><\/em><em>Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania<\/em><\/p><p>A woman got up just before the pastoral prayer and said: &#8220;Please pray for my husband and me. We are leaving tomorrow for two weeks in Florida.&#8221;<\/p><p>This was not a request for &#8220;journeying mercies.&#8221; It was an announcement: &#8220;We are going to Florida while you poor devils freeze to death up here in Maryland.&#8221;<\/p><p>I should have prayed: &#8220;O Lord, who maketh the rain come down and the snow from heaven, let it snow in Florida for the next two weeks.&#8221;<\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-source\"><em><strong>W. Norman MacFarlane<\/strong><\/em><em>Reisterstown, Maryland<\/em><\/p><p class=\"is-style-article-copyright\">Copyright &copy; 2000 by the author or Christianity Today\/<em>Leadership<\/em> Journal. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/le\/help\/permissionsprivacy\/permissions.html#answer\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"copyright\" rel=\"noopener\">Click here<\/a> for reprint information on Leadership Journal.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This Bird Has Blown ItI was disappointed when I read John Beukema&#8217;s &#8220;Today&#8217;s Nesting Habits&#8221; (Fall1999). I have watched the sad trend of church hopping in the San Francisco Bay area. 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