{"id":6733,"date":"2013-11-20T07:00:02","date_gmt":"2013-11-20T07:00:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/2013\/11\/20\/wednesday-link-list-john-piper-on-charismatic-abuse-duck\/"},"modified":"2013-11-20T07:00:02","modified_gmt":"2025-10-08T05:13:20","slug":"wednesday-link-list-john-piper-on-charismatic-abuse-duck","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/content\/wednesday-link-list-john-piper-on-charismatic-abuse-duck\/","title":{"rendered":"Wednesday Link List: John Piper on Charismatic &#8220;Abuse,&#8221; Duck Dynasty Wines Prompt Whines, And More"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"507\" height=\"338\" src=\"https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2025\/10\/35708.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6734\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2025\/10\/35708.jpg 507w, https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2025\/10\/35708.jpg?resize=300,200 300w, https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2025\/10\/35708.jpg?resize=254,169 254w, https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2025\/10\/35708.jpg?resize=324,216 324w, https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2025\/10\/35708.jpg?resize=82,55 82w, https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2025\/10\/35708.jpg?resize=164,109 164w, https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2025\/10\/35708.jpg?resize=412,275 412w, https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2025\/10\/35708.jpg?resize=347,231 347w, https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2025\/10\/35708.jpg?resize=160,107 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 507px) 100vw, 507px\" \/><span class=\"image-credits\">Blurred lights<\/span><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><\/figcaption><\/figure><p>If your work week runs Monday to Friday, by noon on Wednesday you&#8217;re &#8216;over the hump,&#8217; but the Baptist in me still blushes when someone says, &#8220;Happy Hump Day!&#8221;  With that, I think we&#8217;d better quickly move on to the links&#8230;<\/p><ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>You can&#8217;t walk the hallways of the Christian internet without running into Calvinists, but Lutherans are stronger numerically. So <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/geneveith\/2013\/11\/why-is-calvinism-so-influential-and-not-lutheranism\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">why don&#8217;t Lutherans have greater influence<\/a>?<\/li>\n<li>Atheists may not believe, but they want to belong. More accurately, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kansascity.com\/2013\/11\/14\/4622254\/atheists-find-a-place-to-volunteer.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">they want to help serve<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>With the Duck Dynasty people entering into a licensing deal with a winemaker, it&#8217;s no surprise that Free Will Baptist Family Ministries <a href=\"http:\/\/www.abpnews.com\/culture\/media-and-arts\/item\/9019-ministry-cancels-duck-dynasty-event#.UofI1SeQOM2\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">cancelled an upcoming appearance by Willie Robertson<\/a> to raise funds for a Christian school building project.<\/li>\n<li>Quote of the Week: John Piper \u2013 &#8220;&#8230;we really need to keep in mind that every charismatic abuse has its mirror image in <em>non-charismatic abuses<\/em>. Nothing I am going to say is unique to charismatics. In some of these cases, the non-charismatic church is more guilty than the charismatic.&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.desiringgod.org\/blog\/posts\/piper-addresses-strange-fire-and-charismatic-chaos\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">Read more<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>While Pope Francis has changed the style of the papacy, it is creating ripple effects that are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bostonglobe.com\/metro\/2013\/11\/14\/era-pope-francis-signs-change-emerge-among-america-bishops\/s5xjakiRM8zc4tgt4EhC2O\/story.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">changing the style of American bishops<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>So who exactly set the guest list and invited &#8220;the Tea Party Power Players&#8221; to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redletterchristians.org\/good-news-fox-news-franklin-graham-using-aging-father\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">Billy Graham&#8217;s birthday bash<\/a>?<\/li>\n<li>In light of decreased attendance and giving, James MacDonald has taken a 20% pay cut. One writer says that this seems noble, but looks at the Harvest Bible Chapel <a href=\"http:\/\/theelephantsdebt.com\/2013\/11\/09\/amidst-reports-of-decreased-attendance-and-giving-harvest-bible-chapel-adopts-austerity-measures\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">founder&#8217;s larger financial situation<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>A world away, Filipinos worship in <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.reuters.com\/faithworld\/2013\/11\/17\/praying-in-ruined-churches-filipinos-face-up-to-massive-rebuilding\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">churches ravaged by wind and rain<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;The Mormon church was already one of Florida&#8217;s largest landowners. For more than 60 years, the church has owned &#8230; a 290,000 cattle, and citrus operation straddling three counties south of Orlando.&#8221; Now <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/2013\/11\/08\/usa-florida-mormons-idUSL2N0IT2AZ20131108\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">they&#8217;re going into the forestry business<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Raising kids while serving on a foreign mission field is full of challenges, and singing, &#8220;This world is not my home, I&#8217;m just passin&#8217; through;&#8221; is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alifeoverseas.com\/to-the-parents-of-third-culture-kids\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">probably not very helpful<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>With the current interest in Christian feminism, is there room for complementarians?  <a href=\"http:\/\/manofdepravity.com\/2013\/11\/complementarianism-christian-feminism\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">A serious discussion followed<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Author Rachel Held Evans doesn&#8217;t want to be divisive. <a href=\"http:\/\/rachelheldevans.com\/blog\/on-being-divisive\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">Nor does she want to be silent<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>A Canadian priest is facing 76 sexual abuse charges involving dozens of victims dating back to <a href=\"http:\/\/life.nationalpost.com\/2013\/11\/18\/trial-set-to-begin-for-former-catholic-priest-facing-76-sex-related-charges-involving-inuit-children-in-nunavut\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">the 1970s in Canada&#8217;s far north<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>The Church of England, says a former Archbishop of Canterbury, is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mirror.co.uk\/news\/uk-news\/dr-george-carey-church-england-2806737\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">one generation away from extinction<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>You&#8217;re not <em>that<\/em> busy, or you wouldn&#8217;t be reading this. So it&#8217;s time to play <a href=\"http:\/\/receivewithmeekness.wordpress.com\/2013\/11\/11\/jeopardy-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">Bible Jeopardy<\/a>. (What is, &#8220;Don&#8217;t tell my senior pastor my score?&#8221;)<\/li>\n<li>If this is true I&#8217;m in trouble: What your <a href=\"http:\/\/headhearthand.org\/blog\/2013\/11\/14\/real-men-and-women-sleep\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">sleep patterns say about your personal theology<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Essay of the Week: At Aljazeera America (of all places) an exhaustive article on <a href=\"http:\/\/america.aljazeera.com\/watch\/shows\/america-tonight\/america-tonight-blog\/2013\/11\/5\/addressing-sexualassaultonafundamentalistchristiancampus.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">how sexual assaults are handled at Bob Jones University<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Same sex attraction: Vimeo removed this pro-change 32 minute video, then it <a href=\"http:\/\/www.anglican-mainstream.net\/2013\/11\/12\/understanding-same-sex-attraction-3\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">was put on YouTube<\/a>. Let&#8217;s see if it&#8217;s still there by the time you read this&#8230;<\/li>\n<li>&#8230;Meanwhile a Methodist pastor in Pennsylvania faces defrocking after <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usatoday.com\/story\/news\/nation\/2013\/11\/18\/pastor-church-trial\/3624289\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">presiding over his son&#8217;s same-sex marriage<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>With nearly 200 comments, you&#8217;d expect some of the answers to the oft-asked question, &#8220;What is the gospel?&#8221; But maybe different answers when <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/marcusborg\/2013\/11\/what-is-the-gospel\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">it&#8217;s Marcus Borg doing the asking<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>With the anniversary of C. S. Lewis&#8217; death just days away, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.relevantmagazine.com\/culture\/books\/10-cs-lewis-quotes-show-he-was-ahead-his-time\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">some still-applicable quotations<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Nadia Bolz-Weber&#8217;s sermon \u2013 in her church a 10-12 minute homily \u2013 for All Saints Sunday included <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/nadiabolzweber\/2013\/11\/778\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">a &#8220;saint&#8221; from her own local congregation<\/a>. (Click the link to listen as you read.)<\/li>\n<li>Add another Bible narrative to the scrap heap of stories that never happened, as this blogger categorically <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/slacktivist\/2013\/11\/12\/no-the-book-of-jonah-cannot-be-read-as-history\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">dismisses the story of Jonah<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Break out the Petra and Daniel Amos albums; it&#8217;s a campaign to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bringbackccm.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">bring back the print edition of CCM Magazine<\/a>&#8230;<\/li>\n<li>&#8230;and here&#8217;s one Christian artist&#8217;s best kept secret. What if there had been <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ICAsimtEsU8\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">a girl in The Beach Boys<\/a>?<\/li>\n<li>Finally, in our Christian music link trilogy, a story you can&#8217;t live without: Singer Mandisa is launching Simply Mandisa, a <a href=\"http:\/\/simplymandisa.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">line of clothing and accessories<\/a>, &#8217;cause that&#8217;s what you do next, right?<\/li>\n<li>The Creation and Earth Museum in San Diego has been <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rawstory.com\/rs\/2013\/11\/14\/creation-museum-compares-san-diego-to-selma-in-the-1950s-after-museum-council-rejection\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">denied a place on the local museum council<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Was a bus driver at Rutgers University fired for not properly securing a wheelchair, or does it have more to do with his <a href=\"http:\/\/foxnewsinsider.com\/2013\/11\/15\/rutgers-bus-driver-stan-mcneil-says-he-was-fired-praying-wheelchair-bound-passenger\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">praying for a passenger in a wheelchair<\/a>?<\/li>\n<li>While I wouldn&#8217;t want to be able to put a check-mark next to #5 on my first visit, here&#8217;s one writer&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/redmeatforthesoul.com\/article\/what_to_look_for_in_a_church\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">seven things to look for in a church<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Your teaser title for this week: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.9marks.org\/blog\/eldering-economics-and-calling-ministry\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">Eldering and Economics<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Regular viewing of R-rated movies can have a negative impact on faith; at the same time as some <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/gleanings\/2013\/november\/will-churchs-r-rated-movie-hurt-teen-faith.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">church-produced films are being rated R<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Question of the Week: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.readthespirit.com\/ourvalues\/will-the-playstation-4-ps4-keep-you-from-going-to-church\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">How many gamers will skip church<\/a> to spend more time on their new Play Station 4?<\/li>\n<li>Here&#8217;s what happens when a PhD in Theology takes seriously the idea of a <a href=\"http:\/\/nearemmaus.com\/2013\/11\/10\/the-mark-driscoll-scholarship-for-women-pastors-a-good-idea-guest-post\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">Mark Driscoll Scholarship for Women Pastors<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Jamie The Very Worst Hugger admits that when it comes to wrapping your arms around someone, she <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theveryworstmissionary.com\/2013\/11\/this-is-my-brain-on-hugs.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">does not have that particular spiritual gift<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>A UK Church blog offers you the opportunity to calculate <a href=\"http:\/\/cyber-coenobites.blogspot.ca\/2013\/11\/have-you-made-your-mark-in-social-media.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">your social media influence rating<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Well, we could keep going all day here, but I see by the clock on the clubhouse wall that it&#8217;s time to go. If Christmas is leaving you without ideas, here&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.weebelievers.com\/products\/vocation-doll-sr-mary-clara#page=page-1\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">a can&#8217;t miss suggestion for that special person<\/a> in your life.<\/li>\n\n<\/ul><p><em>The Wednesday Link List is written by Paul Wilkinson who blogs the rest of the week at <a href=\"http:\/\/paulwilkinson.wordpress.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">Thinking Out Loud<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/christianity201.wordpress.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">Christianity 201<\/a>.  Professional stunt blogger. Do not attempt at home. 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