{"id":9911,"date":"2010-12-21T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2010-12-21T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/2010\/12\/21\/out-of-context-brandon-obrien\/"},"modified":"2010-12-21T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2010-12-21T00:00:00","slug":"out-of-context-brandon-obrien","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/pastors\/content\/out-of-context-brandon-obrien\/","title":{"rendered":"Out of Context: Brandon O&#8217;Brien"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Over time, the experts have done for church what postcards and PBS specials have done for the Grand Canyon: they&#8217;ve made it difficult for us to appreciate our own experience apart from theirs. We have lost the ability to see and experience and appreciate ministry for ourselves. All we can see is the disparity between what our churches are and what they are &#8216;supposed&#8217; to be.&#8221;<\/p><p><em>Excerpted from &#8220;An Unspoiled View&#8221; in the Fall 2010 issue of <\/em>Leadership Journal.<em> To read the full quote IN context be sure to subscribe to<\/em> Leadership<em> today by clicking on the LJ cover in the left column.<\/em><\/p><p><strong>Brandon O&#8217;Brien<\/strong> is associate editor of <em>Leadership<\/em> and the author of <em>The Strategically Small Church<\/em> (Bethany House, 2010).<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Over time, the experts have done for church what postcards and PBS specials have done for the Grand Canyon: they&#8217;ve made it difficult for us to appreciate our own experience apart from theirs. We have lost the ability to see and experience and appreciate ministry for ourselves. 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