Kay Warren Talks to CT about Her Battle with Depression
Kay Warren has struggled with low-level depression most of her life. The co-founder of Saddleback Church, Warren assumed that joyful living was meant for other people—people like her husband, Rick, who she says has a naturally buoyant, "joyful, Tigger-like" personality. As a self-described Eeyore, Warren didn't think being joyful was part of her personality.
"I used to think life came in waves," Warren told me in a recent phone conversation. "Hard times, and then good times; back and forth." But she's realized the highs and lows run through our lives life on more-or-less parallel tracks. "In every moment of our lives, there is beauty, truth, honor, love. And at the same moment, there is an ache in our hearts for something else. People are dying. Relationships are ending." On the day of President Obama's inauguration, Warren was present as Rick gave the invocation: a real "high" for the Warrens. "But at the same time," Warren says, "a loved one was struggling with a mental illness. On the same day!"
Warren's new book, Choose Joy: Because Happiness Isn't Enough (Revell), which was released earlier this month, grew out of a personal revival in recent years as she discovered what it meant to live with joy—which she says is built more upon a settled assurance about who God is and a conscious choice to praise God in every circumstance than upon whether circumstances in life are going smoothly.
"Happiness is built on happenings," Warren told me. "Joy, on the other hand, is ...1