ELCA Assembly: Was God in Either Whirlwind?
Most reports from the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) assembly today attempt to tie together the denomination's vote to adopt a sexuality statement and the tornado strike on the Minneapolis Convention Center where the Lutherans were meeting. (No one was injured.)
"We trust that the weather is not a commentary on our work," said Steven Loy, chairman of the committee overseeing the statement. (He was quoted by The Washington Times and Associated Press.)
But WordAlone, a renewal group within the ELCA, reported that both sides sought to find commentary in the weather: "A supporter of the social statement typified the storm as a mighty wind of the Holy Spirit and as a positive message. Some WordAlone Network members heard a different message, a warning of God's anger at the ELCA in the wind."
John Piper, whose Baptist church is just down the road from the convention center, thought the storm was a message as well. "The tornado in Minneapolis was a gentle but firm warning to the ELCA and all of us: Turn from the approval of sin. Turn from the promotion of behaviors that lead to destruction."
Hours later, delegates voted on the sexuality statement, which needed 2/3 approval. It passed by exactly that margin: 676-338. One or two votes could have changed the outcome. The Minneapolis Star-Tribune notes that the vote came near dinnertime and some delegates had already started to leave. Twenty-nine of the 1,045 registered voters did not vote on the statement. (Any who opposed the sexuality statement are almost certainly kicking themselves this morning and are probably not telling their friends about it…)
The headlines are both dramatic and careful: "Lutherans move toward more open view on gays" (Associated Press), "ELCA validates 'chaste' same-sex relationships" (Minneapolis Star-Tribune).
But the new statement does not explicitly approve of homosexual relationships. Instead, it says:
We do not have agreement on whether this church should honor these relationships, uplift, shelter and protect them, or on precisely how it is appropriate to do so. In response, this church draws on the foundational Lutheran understanding that the baptized are called to discern God's love in service to the neighbor. In our Christian freedom, we therefore seek responsible actions that serve others and do so with humility and deep respect for the conscience-bound beliefs of others. We understand that, in this discernment about ethics and church practice, faithful people can and will come to different conclusions about the meaning of Scripture and about what constitutes responsible action. We further believe that this church, on the basis of "the bound conscience," will include these different understandings and practices within its life as it seeks to live out its mission and ministry in the world.
The heart of the matter is buried in the footnotes. "The difference between interpreters should not be understood as a conflict between those who seek to be 'true to Scripture' and those who seek to 'twist the Bible' to their own liking. The disagreements are genuine," the document says. It continues:
When the clear word of God's saving action by grace through faith is at stake, Christian conscience becomes as adamant as Paul, who opposed those who insisted upon circumcision. … However, when the question is about morality or church practice, the Pauline and Lutheran witness is less adamant and believes we may be called to respect the bound conscience of the neighbor. That is, if salvation is not at stake in a particular question, Christians are free to give priority to the neighbor's well-being and will protect the conscience of the neighbor who may well view the same question in such a way as to affect faith itself. For example, Paul was confident that Christian freedom meant the Gospel of Jesus Christ was not at stake in questions of meat sacrificed to idols or the rituals of holy days. Yet he insisted that, if a brother or sister did not understand this freedom and saw eating this meat as idolatry to a pagan god, the Christian was obligated to "walk in love" by eating just vegetables for the neighbor's sake!
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VJC/Val
Reply to:Barry B. Posted: August 31, 2009 12:56 PM Romans 1:18-32, exactly. ELCA cannot force any church to uphold this rule. A pastor cannot force a congregation to hold this rule. The congregation votes on the Pastor they call. ELCA can vote until they are blue in the face, but cannot make a church move on this issue. Majority of ELCA's funds come from the church level. I expect a lot of churches are going to speak against this through their wallets. This is not over with the ELCA. The fight of God's True Word will continue. www.wordalone.org
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In rely to J.Ward Posted: August 25, 2009 8:33 PM I am also a member of the ELCA and Word Alone. God loves us! However, He hates the deeds of homosexuality because they are sinful. It is a clear sin in the bible and Jesus turned the tables over in the temple for a reason. He loved the moneychangers. He had dinner with the sinners, but did not allow them to corrupt him or the Father, his Word or His House. Break away from the ways of the World and return to the Word of God. Also, don't just use Paul as an excuse for Women leadership in the church. Paul was addressing a corrupt church in Corinth. That's why he addressed homosexuality in I Corinthians 6:9. He is very clear throughout the bible. J.Ward Posted: August 25, 2009 8:33 PM I don't believe that Christ requires us to loathe, despise, and reject those among us who are gay. ...
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Barry B. also see Leviticus 20:13 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. 1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders. 1 Kings 14:24 There were even male shrine prostitutes in the land; the people engaged in all the detestable practices of the nations the LORD had driven out before the Israelites. 1 Kings 15:12 He expelled the male shrine prostitutes from the land and got rid of all the idols his fathers had made. 1 Kings 22:46 He rid the land of the rest of the male shrine prostitutes who remained there even after the reign of his father Asa. 2 Kings 23:7 He also tore down the quarters of the male shrine prostitutes, which were in the temple of the LORD and . .