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Did Andy Stanley Really Mean Obama Is 'Pastor in Chief'?

The Atlanta megachurch pastor speaks about his pre-inauguration sermon and reaction to it.
Did Andy Stanley Really Mean Obama Is 'Pastor in Chief'?
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This week, Atlanta pastor Andy Stanley preached at President Obama's pre-inaugural worship service at St. John's Episcopal Church in Washington, D.C. In the course of his remarks, Stanley, pastor of North Point Community Church, called the President "Pastor in Chief." This caused a whirlwind of comments and criticisms, to which Stanley wanted to reply. I talked with him by phone, and asked him about the context of this remark, as well as the content of his sermon and the Christian's public responsibility toward Presidents with whom we disagree on crucial issues. —Mark Galli, editor.

How did this recent invitation to preach at the pre-inauguration service come about?

Joshua DuBois, who works for the President, called me a couple of weeks before the event and asked me if I would do the 12-minute sermon at the pre-inaugural service. They've done this for many years. It was pretty much an Episcopal service, very high church, hymns, readings. Mostly Christians were there, except for two rabbis who read portions of Scripture—I believe they were rabbis. I was very honored and surprised to be asked.

Who attends this sort of thing?

The President's family, the vice-president's family, and the cabinet and their families. I think some invited members of Congress. And then there were a lot of church members. The place was full. I would guess five hundred people.

How did you settle on a theme to preach on?

When Joshua invited me I knew immediately what I wanted to talk about, and it's something I talk a lot about at leadership conferences—the idea that people with power are called upon to leverage their power for people who don't have power. And I knew immediately that's what I wanted to talk about. Actually the easiest part of this was knowing what I wanted to talk about.

The other thing was, I wanted to teach out of the New Testament. There's the temptation in an environment like this to go Old Testament, be broad, stay away from Jesus. But they did not tell me what to talk about. They did not ask for my notes ahead of time. Everything else was scripted.

I wanted to teach out of the New Testament. There's the temptation in an environment like this to go Old Testament, be broad, stay away from Jesus.

What was the hardest part about preaching?

Making sure I could actually get to the church on time! So many streets are blocked off, and there are checkpoints. Four years ago, I participated in the national prayer service the day after the inauguration at the National Cathedral, and getting there was so stressful. So my wife, Sandra, and I got a hotel room four blocks from the church, and the night before, we walked to the area where the church is to make sure we knew how to get there, where the checkpoints were going to be. To me that was the most stressful part. To make matters worse, my alarm didn't go off, and room service didn't come—we literally woke up 30 minutes before we needed to be walking out of the hotel!

So what did you say in the sermon?

John 13:3 says, "Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power." So I read the verse and asked, "So what do you do when it dawns on you that you're the most powerful person in the room? You're the most powerful person, in this case, in the world?" And I just let that question hang. I'm looking at a very powerful group of people, as powerful as you can imagine.


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audrey ruth

February 10, 2013  12:38am

Lillian, if Obama is our "pastor-in-chief", then it is his duty to call sin what it really is. Abortion really is murder and same-gender "marriage" really is an abomination in God's sight. However, Obama has been outspoken in supporting these sins, even advocating the death of babies after they are born (the Born Alive act). This is one reason it was so abominable for Andy Stanley to call Obama our "pastor-in-chief". God's purpose for those whom He has called to lead His church has always been for them to call the nations' leaders to repentance -- as Samuel did King Saul, as Nathan did King David, as Elijah did King Ahab, among others. BUT Andy Stanley did not take his calling seriously. Instead, he chose to flatter an unGodly leader who has chosen to defy God time and time again in his stands on important issues. It is disappointing that Stanley supported Obama in his rebellion against God instead of calling for repentance. As you said, he (and Obama) will answer to God.

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Robert McKenzie

February 09, 2013  11:34pm

Lillian, I think the point many of us made is Andy did not preach the Gospel. He basically challenged the audience to use their power to do good. Noble and maybe it will even make some worldly difference. But it's not the Gospel. I'm not a Bible scholar, but I can't think of any examples of Christ or the apostles deferring deliverning the Gospel so they could "build bridges" first . But that's what Andy and the Purpose Driven pastors believe and teach. Even if they are correct, Andy still missed it here. He was invited there TO PREACH. The bridge was already built. He got the invitation. He decided a real sermon was too risky. There is a difference in preaching things that are true and preaching The Truth. The PDC leadership is very skilled at lectures and life coach presentations on true principles. They are woefully shallow on presenting The Truth. Jesus Christ, Him being crucified and resurrected and our only access to God. Andy got no where near that sermon.

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Lillian Logan

February 09, 2013  9:04pm

Pastor Andy Stanley is a preacher of the gospel of Jesus Christ. He preaches to all people regardless of what they think or believe about certain issues. God didn't say just preach, pray or teach to certain people. He says go into all the world and preach the gospel. There are people in all the world who believe and do any and everything which entail ungodly and godly things. I think it is an honor to be asked by the President to speak at his gathering. God bless Pastor Stanley. God hates all sins. He doesn't hate some and love others. Sin is sin whether it be murder, sex immorality, lying, hate or whatever. He is the Judge who will deal with all sin in the end. Each individual need to be certain his/her own life is pleasing to God.

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