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February 23, 2012

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Interview: Bruce Cockburn
The veteran artist on longevity, war zones, and why he believes Christians can cuss.




After more than 40 years of songwriting, 66-year-old Bruce Cockburn shows few signs of slowing down. A member of the Canadian Music Hall of Fame—he even has his own postage stamp!—Cockburn keeps making great music and piling up awards. In early December, he nabbed two Canadian Folk Music Awards for Contemporary Album of the Year and Solo Artist of the Year.

Bruce Cockburn
Bruce Cockburn

Cockburn has spent much of his adult life making music, fighting for just causes, and sharing tents with soldiers in war zones around the world. He's the first to admit that he's surprised this music thing is still humming along.

"It's kind of amazing," he says, laughing. "How did I get here? How did I last this long? I remember when the idea of living to be 40 seemed absurd. Here I am at 66 and I'm still doing this—and it still feels fresh. It still is very, very far from being old hat or boring."

One reason for that is Cockburn's many travels and experiences, including a late 2009 visit to Kandahar, Afghanistan to see his brother, Capt. John Cockburn, and the Canadian troops. That trip influenced a number of songs on his 31st and most recent album, Small Source of Comfort (True North Records), which released in March 2011.

Cockburn says his brother had been an ER doctor specializing in anesthesiology before joining the army later in life. Cockburn says his visit to Afghanistan was unique.

"Since the early '80s, I've found myself in war zones in various parts of the world," he says. "This was an opportunity to go to a war zone that I had a personal connection, and to see a war zone in the company of Canadians. It was an amazing experience. I came away with the same amount of skepticism about the war that I went in with, but what I hadn't expected was how much affection and admiration I would feel for the troops.

"It sounds strange to say it, but you can be in a war zone and have a lot of fun. Even though war is essentially pain on all sides, human beings have the capacity to enjoy themselves. The soldiers are mostly young people, full of enthusiasm and energy, and that's an exciting thing for an old guy like me."

The song "Each One Lost" was influenced by the death of two Canadian soldiers who had just been killed and were being prepared to be sent home. Cockburn was present for the sending-off ceremony, standing on the tarmac as the two coffins were loaded onto a plane. Cockburn was moved by "the incredible dignity of the ceremony and the empathy of the troops, knowing it could have been them. There was an incredible depth of feeling all around—a lot of tears and a sense of seriousness."

The instrumental "Comets of Kandahar" comes from something a soldier said while watching fighter jets take off in the night. "They would take off in pairs," says Cockburn, "and because they don't have streetlights at Kandahar Airfield, you just hear this incredible roar and a moment later all you could see was this cone of incandescent purple flame shooting across the sky, followed thirty seconds later by another one. Everybody stops to watch it. The soldier next to me turns and says, 'Comets of Kandahar.' I thought the image was so great it became the title of that piece."

Spiritual inspiration

Taking inspiration from his experiences is a staple of Cockburn's method—and the things that inspire him are frequently spiritual. His immense catalogue of songs spans many topics, and his large, loyal fan base includes people of various religious backgrounds.




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one dog barking

January 31, 2012  3:26pm

I am surprised and saddened that so many feel compelled to decide if Bruce is or is not a Christian. I am surprised that we have this need to decide what are and are not sins. I hope and pray that God is more gracious than we seem to be. I don't think he (God) has ever asked me to make the decision whether someone else is acceptable in his (God's) sight.

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Jerry Frost

January 30, 2012  2:08pm

I've been a fan of Cockburn for years, and much of his spriritual beliefs can be found in his music, but in this world, speaking absolutes, especially things like "Jesus is the Son of God", or "Jesus is the only way to God" is intellectual suicide, at least to those that think they are "wise in their own eyes". Yeah, it's a bit frustrating to think that Bruce probably does believe in the divinity, and redemptive nature found only in Jesus, but comes up short of saying it. I'll give Bruce somewhat of a pass though, because some of the "so called" Christians out there, make you ashamed to be associated.

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Bill van Geest

January 30, 2012  6:41am

See Brian Walsh's new book: Kicking at the Darkness: Bruce Cockburn and the Christian Imagination. (Brazos Press) "For forty years, singer and songwriter Bruce Cockburn has been writing beautifully evocative music. Bestselling author and respected theologian Brian Walsh has followed Cockburn’s work for years and has written and spoken often on his art. In this creative theological and cultural engagement, Walsh reveals the imaginative depth and uncompromising honesty of the artist’s Christian spirituality. Cockburn offers hope in the midst of doubt, struggle, failure, and anger; indeed, the sentiment of “kicking at the darkness” is at the heart of his spirituality. This book engages the rich imagery of Cockburn’s lyrics as a catalyst for shaping and igniting a renewed Christian imagination." From the promo for the book's launch See: http://hughsroom.com/2011/10/kicking-at-the-darkness-bruce-cockburn-the-chr istian-imagination-book-launch-benefit-concert/

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