The Calling

One church leader, one calling, one honest conversation. An interview show about the nature of church leadership, the inherent struggles that come with that calling, and the many different ways God has shaped individuals to work within his church.

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Kristie Anyabwile: Pastors' Wives Are Disciple Makers, Too
Episode 47 | 56 min
Kristie Anyabwile: Pastors' Wives Are Disciple Makers, Too
Her husband is a minister, but she isn't interested in being her church's "first lady."
Barnabas Piper Isn't Hiding from His Divorce
Episode 46 |1 hr 34 min
Barnabas Piper Isn't Hiding from His Divorce
The writer, speaker, podcaster, and pastor’s kid opens up about the burdens of watching a marriage die.
Why Tish Harrison Warren Gave Up on Being a ‘Good Church Kid’
Episode 45 |1 hr 11 min
Why Tish Harrison Warren Gave Up on Being a ‘Good Church Kid’
The Anglican priest, writer, and mother on how discovering grace invigorated her faith and ignited her calling.
For Carl and Karen Ellis, Renewing Your Culture Starts with Knowing Your History
Episode 44 | 47 min
For Carl and Karen Ellis, Renewing Your Culture Starts with Knowing Your History
According to both theologians, looking to the past can remind us of God's present faithfulness.
Rebekah Lyons: ‘Freedom from Mental Illness Means More than Being “Cured”’
Episode 43 | 44 min
Rebekah Lyons: ‘Freedom from Mental Illness Means More than Being “Cured”’
For the ‘You Are Free’ author, being blindsided by panic disorder revealed a deeper need for a rescuing Savior.
Lee Strobel’s Hope for Apologetics in a ‘Post-Truth’ Culture
Episode 42 | 48 min
Lee Strobel’s Hope for Apologetics in a ‘Post-Truth’ Culture
As ‘The Case for Christ’ heads to the big screen, the journalist-turned-evangelist reflects on what's changed—and what’s stayed the same—about defending the faith.
How BJ Thompson Shoulders the Burdens of Other People's Marriages
Episode 41 | 36 min
How BJ Thompson Shoulders the Burdens of Other People's Marriages
A member of Lecrae's hip-hop collective set his sights on something fundamental.
Jen Wilkin: Let's Make This a Golden Age for Women's Ministry
Episode 40 | 45 min
Jen Wilkin: Let's Make This a Golden Age for Women's Ministry
The Bible teacher and author says we've reached a new crossroads for women in the church. How can we chart the best path forward?
For Gaye Clark, Grief Is a Gracious Invitation
Episode 39 | 48 min
For Gaye Clark, Grief Is a Gracious Invitation
Why the writer, widow, and anti-trafficking volunteer doesn't shy away from the problem of pain.
Thabiti Anyabwile's Love-Hate Relationship with the Limelight
Episode 38 | 41 min
Thabiti Anyabwile's Love-Hate Relationship with the Limelight
As a pastor, he prefers to avoid the public eye. Here's why he doesn't.

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Top Story June 27, 2017
The Church's Biggest Challenge in 2017
The Church's Biggest Challenge in 2017
Let’s get unchurched evangelicals back into church, and prejudiced evangelicals back to the Bible.