The Dick Staub Interview: Francis Schaeffer's Grandson Goes to War
"Frank Schaeffer talks about how his views of his country, culture, and prayer changed as his son joined the Marines."
posted 4/01/2003 12:00AM
Frank Schaeffer
is the author of the novels Portofino, Saving Grandma, and the sequel Zermatt, which will be published by Carroll & Graf in October. The son of Presbyterian apologist Francis Schaeffer, Frank has now written a nonfiction book with his own son, John, titled Keeping Faith: A Father-Son Story About Love and the United States Marine Corps. The book has been receiving attention from several quarters (including Oprah Winfrey's TV show), and is number 30 on The New York Times hardcover nonfiction bestseller list.
What is it that people are connecting to in this book?
This book tells the story of a guy who lived in the Volvo-driving, higher-education worshiping Northshore Boston. It tells the story about a family who had never imagined one of their kids going into the military. My older son went to Georgetown, and my daughter went to New York University. John wanted to go into the Marine Corps right out of a swanky private school. I had never served in the military, and, to be frank, the children of the members of my economic class—white, educated, '60s-generation types—usually don't serve, at least not around here in Massachusetts. We leave military service to other people's sons and daughters.
Why do we assume that Chelsea Clinton or Jenna Bush aren't going to volunteer for the military, whereas it doesn't surprise us if we hear that the guy who works down at the gas station has a son in the military? In World War II everybody did the heavy lifting, not just the less-educated echelons of the society.
I guess what people are connecting to with Keeping Faith is a personal story about a father who loves his son and the son who loves his father fighting all through the last summer. The kid was at home. I didn't like his girlfriend. I didn't want him to go into the Marines. We had all kinds of trouble. So I was learning too, not only about the Marine Corps, but something about my son and how to respect him.
And, of course, people are connecting because of 9/11. We wrote our book, by the way, before 9/11. After 9/11 and now Iraq, anything to do with a kid in the military is pretty topical. My son has been deployed; he's out there in the Middle East now, so I'm getting some sleepless nights. You put all that together and all of a sudden we've got a book that's selling very well.
Everybody can understand a book like this after 9/11. Why did you want to write it before it became so marketable?
John, my son, began to write me some very descriptive letters from boot camp. After he left boot camp, he went on to Fort Huachuca in Arizona, where military intelligence people are trained, and we started trading e-mails. After a few months of this, I said, "At some point I'm going to use this material in a book, whether it's a novel or something else." A little while later I said, "That's crazy. We're writing this book now. Let's just keep going and treat it that way."
But the real reason that we wrote is really simple. It was my way of keeping track of my boy. I did not want John to go slipping into a world of which I knew nothing. So I wanted to come up with a project, any excuse, whether it was trading e-mails or writing a book, to stay very close to him. Our last summer together was a rough time. Part of this story was just our attempt at restoring our relationship.