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February 10, 2012

Home > 2007 > July (Web-only)Christianity Today, July (Web-only), 2007
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Bush's Heresy
His hope for Iraq is "more of a theological perspective," he says.




David Brooks's New York Times column Tuesday has launched a fascinating theological discussion among some a-list bloggers. At issue is a statement Bush made while meeting Friday with ten conservative journalists. Brooks has the quote in part, but National Review Online's Rich Lowry posted it in full after Brooks's column came out:

The other debate is whether or not it is a hopeless venture to encourage the spread of liberty. Most of you all around this table are much better historians than I am. And people have said, you know, this is Wilsonian, it's hopelessly idealistic. One, it is idealistic, to this extent: It's idealistic to believe people long to be free. And nothing will change my belief. I come at it many different ways. Really not primarily from a political science perspective, frankly; it's more of a theological perspective. I do believe there is an Almighty, and I believe a gift of that Almighty to all is freedom. And I will tell you that is a principle that no one can convince me that doesn't exist.

Lowry isn't buying it. "You can believe freedom is a gift from the Almighty and still recognize that some cultural soil is more or less compatible with supporting political systems that protect liberty," he wrote. "But Bush believes the spread of liberty is 'inevitable.' If that is the case, why not spare ourselves all the effort and let the inevitable flowering of liberty take hold?"

Rod Dreher chimes in: "I believe there's an Almighty too, and that He desires his human creatures to live in freedom. But good grief, you can't start wars based on that messianic principle, and continuing them on the same grounds!"

Andrew Sullivan writes,

As a very abstract theological principle, it's hard for a fellow Christian to disagree [with Bush's statement that 'a gift of that Almighty to all is freedom']. But, of course, as a political or historical principle, this is dangerous, delusional hogwash. There is a distinction between Burke theology and politics, a distinction between theory and practice: a distinction at the core of the very meaning of conservatism. The notion that free will or even human freedom is destined to be humanity's future, and that this destiny can be achieved by a Supreme Leader, is a function not of conservatism in any sense, but of a messianic, eschatological ideology.

The harshest remark comes from Ross Douthat, whose post is titled "Our President, The Heretic":

I think Andrew lets Bush off too easily when he says "as a very abstract theological principle, it's hard for a fellow Christian to disagree" with the President's contention that "a gift of that Almighty to all is freedom." On the one hand, there's nothing 'abstract' about that particular Christian principle: The gift of freedom that Christ promises is far more real than anything else in this world, if Christian teaching on the matter is correct. On the other hand, there's nothing that's political about that promise, and the attempt to transform God's promise of freedom through Jesus Christ into a this-world promise of universal democracy is the worst kind of "immanentizing the eschaton" utopian bull****. It's Hegel meets Woodrow Wilson meets James Kurth's 'Protestant Deformation' meets the American heresy [Douthat apparently means David Gerlernter's "Americanism" more than Pope Leo XIII's], and Christians and conservatives alike ought to be appalled by it.

Back at National Review Online, Ramesh Ponnuru defends Bush: '[I]t may be unconservative to think that an aggressively liberty-promoting foreign policy follows from the idea that all human beings have a God-given right to be free, and certainly Christians are not obliged to believe that it does so follow. But the proposition that our rights are a gift from God is neither un-conservative nor un-Christian; it is a commonplace observation in the context of American political history." (Douthat agrees in part here.)





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Displaying 1–5 of 36 comments

lr howard

August 01, 2007  12:50pm

the diversity of opinion re the spiritual/biblical/political/philosophical/practical understanding of what freedom just exactly is reflects the dilemma any president/preacher/christian/citizen/common-ordinary-commonsensical-thinker faces. It's an "on the one hand but then again on the other hand" quandry - which I don't think will find final resolution until He comes . . . but which doesn't mean we should quit chewing on this bone and doing the very best we can in view of the situation at hand.

Paul

July 30, 2007  7:22pm

Kathleen, you were not attacked by Iraq. Saddam was a brutal dictator, but he was not an al-Qaeda supporter. The current war shows little sign of transforming Islam and its people with any love for the US version of freedom. I am not justifying Islamic abuse of women or of freedom, but this is not the way to change them. There may be just wars, but this one is a long way from fitting into the category. Freedom is a theological principle, and a gift from God, but it is not one that has ever been aquired under the auspices of global empires, or at the hands of breath-taking military expenditure.

Andrew

July 29, 2007  5:45pm

if only we could become the Church Acts portrays....... http://andrewkreider.squarespace.com/

stever

July 29, 2007  1:58pm

I have lived in Africa with some of the poorest people in the world under dictatorships and yet the Christians there had hope. In our own country there are so many people suffering addictions and despair and many without hope. Who is better off? Someone who lives in a country with hopeless leadership who knows Jesus Christ? Or someone in a well governed country with all kinds of liberties who has lost hope and doesn't know where to find it? I have lived in the middle east and muslims there are more concerned with western secularism than they are about Christian imperialism. What the west is trying to export is messianic secularism. Do you think the Middle east is better off with a western style democracy? or an effective Christian witness. Is Jesus the hope for the world, or is our way of living what will really set people "free." Christian freedom is way different than how most people view freedom. It is freedom to love and serve God and neighbor. Justice is a good goal for government

Ron

July 27, 2007  10:57am

"Are we all a bunch of heretics?" Yes.

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