It was nearly 15 years ago when singer-songwriter Josh Garrels released his the hit album “Love & War & the Sea In Between.” Back then, he was based in Portland. Now, Garrels, his wife, and their five children live in rural Michigan, where Garrels recently finished enclosing a barn loft and transforming it into a music studio. He’s also composing the score for Forevergreen—an animated short film—and preparing to release an album called Peace to All Who Enter Here, Vol. 2.

CT’s worship correspondent Kelsey Kramer McGinnis recently spoke with Garrels, who shed light on a great hope for the future of the church.

“I do see some things in our divisive time that I would like the church to come to terms with,” he said. “How do we correct in a way that brings liberation and healing and restoration and faith building and not just more angry divisiveness?”

Garrels recalled a time early in his faith when a fellow Christian put their hand on his shoulder, looked him in the eyes, and said, “This goes as deep and far as you want to go with it.” Those words, Garrels recalled, were like music to his ears.

As we consider how God might be leading us in our lives, may we remember that— each and every day—our faith in God goes as deep and far as we want to go with it. And may we engage our churches, neighbors, and friends with hope for their faith to travel deep and far as well.