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Being Human

Empathy and Remembering with Esau McCaulley

Author and theologian Esau McCaulley on absence and presence.

Presence has a profound impact on our lives. So does its opposite—absence. On this episode of Being Human, Steve Cuss welcomes author, professor, and public theologian Esau McCaulley. McCaulley’s book Reading While Black is dedicated to his father, which may lead people to believe that they had a close relationship. But McCaulley says that dedication was his way of declaring, I forgive you. During their conversation, Cuss and McCaulley talk about how the absence of paternal love can shape a child. They discuss how McCaulley’s childhood affects his parenting, the role of humor in processing trauma, and the power of memory. They talk about racism, shame, and the roots of dehumanization. And they consider the presence of God’s love and redemption. Resources mentioned in this episode include:

“Being Human with Steve Cuss” is a production of Christianity Today Executive Produced by Erik Petrik and Mike Cosper Produced and Edited by Matt Stevens Associate Producers: McKenzie Hill, Raed Gilliam, and Abby Perry Theme song by Dan Phelps Original Music by Andy Gullahorn Mix Engineer: Kevin Morris Graphic Design: Amy Jones

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