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Devil and the Deep Blue Sea

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BONUS: What Does It Mean to Believe Survivors? In Conversation with Mary DeMuth and Colleen Ramser

A deep dive into the tender and complex topic of abuse discussed in season one.

In this bonus episode of Devil and the Deep Blue Sea, we explore one of the most difficult and essential topics raised in Season 1: Abuse.

Joined by guests Colleen Ramser and Mary DeMuth, we discuss the complexities of trauma, memory, and belief, especially when it comes to hearing and honoring the stories of survivors. From systemic failures in churches to the personal weight of silence and shame, this conversation is both heavy and hopeful.

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