Podcast

Devil and the Deep Blue Sea

shattered glass over a sunset

Artwork by Nim Ben Reuven

The Spell Breaks

How do false memories take hold—and what happens when they drive real-world consequences? Two experts unpack the role of memory in the rise and fall of the Satanic Panic.

Today’s episode marks a turning point in the series. Join us as we revisit the concept of memory—this time with two experts who spent their careers trying to properly understand it. Retired FBI agent Kenneth Lanning, one of the earliest skeptics inside law enforcement during the Satanic Panic, reveals how disturbing allegations collapsed under the weight of their own implausibility. 

Elizabeth Loftus, renowned cognitive psychologist and professor, has shown how easily false memories can be implanted, reshaped, and believed with unwavering conviction. Together, these two experts help us begin to answer a central question of this season: How did the Satanic Panic end? And what are the consequences of believing, prosecuting, and punishing based on memory alone?

As we approach the end of the series, we learn that the Satanic Panic didn’t end with a bang. It was more of a slow fade-out. The Religious Right had secured major political and cultural victories. Evangelicals no longer needed Satan to galvanize their movement—their influence was cemented. Fear of the Devil simply became less useful. 

Resources:

  • Kenneth Lanning, retired FBI agent
  • Elizabeth Loftus, PhD, psychologist and educator

Devil and the Deep Blue Sea is a production of Christianity Today

Hosted and written by Mike Cosper

Produced by Rebekah Sebastian, with production assistance by Dawn Adams

Sound Design and Mix Engineer: TJ Hester

Sound Design, Animation, and Video: Steve Scheidler

Graphic Design: Nim Ben Reuven

Music by Dirt Poor Robins

Erik Petrik and Mike Cosper are the executive producers of CT Media Podcasts, and Matt Stevens is our senior producer.

If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a rating and review to help more people find the show. Thanks for listening.

Can’t wait for the next episode? Join host Mike Cosper for a livestream every other Monday on the CT YouTube channel or the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea Facebook page

Join our Facebook group for deeper conversations and behind-the-scenes content.

Our Latest

The Bulletin

Joe Kent Resigns, Iranian Threats, and a Victory for Parents’ Rights

Mike Cosper, Clarissa Moll, Russell Moore

Public opinions on the Iran war, homeland security risks, and disagreements about gender transition in the classroom.

Review

What Kids Think About God Matters

Three theology books to read this month.

Analysis

Q&A: Why Pakistan and Afghanistan Are Fighting and How Christians There Survive

The Bulletin with Knox Thames

A conversation with human rights lawyer and former diplomat Knox Thames.

Turning ‘a Miracle’ into Long-Haul Help for the Homeless

Taylor Berglund

A North Carolina nonprofit is thinking in decades, not days, about sustainable, affordable housing.

Urgency Is Not Faithfulness

Thomas Anderson

A church that quickly reacts to every controversy is echoing the culture, not God’s Word.

What to Expect at This Year’s Church Conventions

SBC, LCMS, ACNA, CREC, and Global Methodist gatherings in 2026 will weigh issues including abuse investigations and sexual ethics.

Gospel Matriarch Lucie Campbell Looked To God

Daylan Woodall

Her songs spoke to life’s uncertainties and God’s presence—and taught me how to hope.

The Just Life with Benjamin Watson

Johnny Joey Jones: What Do We Owe the Men and Women We Send to War?

Trauma, Responsibility, and the Honor of Being Needed

Apple PodcastsDown ArrowDown ArrowDown Arrowarrow_left_altLeft ArrowLeft ArrowRight ArrowRight ArrowRight Arrowarrow_up_altUp ArrowUp ArrowAvailable at Amazoncaret-downCloseCloseEmailEmailExpandExpandExternalExternalFacebookfacebook-squareGiftGiftGooglegoogleGoogle KeephamburgerInstagraminstagram-squareLinkLinklinkedin-squareListenListenListenChristianity TodayCT Creative Studio Logologo_orgMegaphoneMenuMenupausePinterestPlayPlayPocketPodcastprintRSSRSSSaveSaveSaveSearchSearchsearchSpotifyStitcherTelegramTable of ContentsTable of Contentstwitter-squareWhatsAppXYouTubeYouTube