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May 26, 2012

Home > 2009 > November (Web-Only)Christianity Today, November (Web-Only), 2009
Germany's 'Cold Religion'
A Berlin-based journalist says that Martin Luther would have driven most of Germany's bishops from their pulpits.




Bon Jovi, Mikhail Gorbachev, and Hillary Clinton will appear at the $7.4 million bash recognizing the 20th anniversary of the Berlin Wall coming down, but Berlin-based journalist Markus Spieker says that most Germans probably won't party. "Some Germans even lament the loss of the good old days during the Cold War, when everything seemed cozier and more obvious," Spieker said. "It's like the Israelites after the Exodus, taking the newfound freedom for granted." Similarly, he predicts nothing will change during the 500th anniversary of Martin Luther's nailing of the 95 theses on the Wittenberg door in 2017. "When Jesus came into the world, there was no celebration, nothing was going on," said Spieker, who was a "pastor's kid" in West Germany 20 years ago and is now a journalist at a television station in Berlin. He spoke with online editor Sarah Pulliam Bailey at an ice cream shop next to the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin about the church in Germany and why he thinks it's stagnant.

How is church life in Germany different than it is in the United States?

The Protestant state church is fairly dead. The percent of committed Christians in Germany is maybe at 3 or 4 percent. Eighty percent belong to a church nominally, Protestant or Catholic. A mere 0.5 percent belong to a free evangelical church. The percent of people believing in life after death is fewer than 50 percent. It's what a German philosopher, Ruediger Safranski, calls "cold religion," very left-brained, very cognitive, focused on rituals and membership but not on personal commitment. Sometimes the mainline bishops say we need to be more mission minded. But they don't put any money into it.

Is there something about German culture that keeps churches from growing?

Part of the problem is that German institutions are more important than they are in America. Unlike America, we don't have a history of being nonconformist, of doing "our own thing," of risking failure. We try to abide by the rules of the dominant system. And systems are slow to adapt. I like to put it this way: Europe is a legacy, whereas America is a project. Europe is about looking at what you have, not what you could have; it's about position, not potential, which makes change so much more difficult.

Do you think the churches are trying to grow?

Of course they'd like to grow. But in the end what [produces] positive results is not programs, but people. We don't have church "entrepreneurs" like Bill Hybels and Rick Warren. We don't have brilliant communicators like Tim Keller and Erwin McManus and Rob Bell and Mark Dever and Mark Driscoll. If these people were not pastors, they could be successful CEOs or entertainers or TV personalities. Whereas in Germany it's often the least gifted people who want to study theology. And the church institutions are full of bureaucrats.

Is this just a stagnant period or is there hope for change soon?

Every hundred years or so, you have major social unrest in Europe. You have people longing, looking for new solutions. And at that situation God anoints or calls people who are good with communicating and meetings those needs. People are so lonely these days, and relationships are so fragile. We are living in pretty revolutionary times. Relationships are different than at any point in history. You make 10 friends per day on Facebook. Of course, you don't have time for the other friends in real life. I believe we are living in a time of permanent crisis. What's a crisis? It's when people are too slow to adapt to new circumstances. Things move forward, and humans don't know how to deal with it. Suddenly they wake up and say, "I'm 40, my life's a mess, my relationships are all broken, I don't have my dream job, and I have nothing to look out for." So people are looking more and more open.





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eric

November 17, 2009  1:14am

www.jesusfreaks.com There is a group of kids in Germany who are growing as a church in Germany , so don;t give up on them yet . They started in the 90;s some time and grow to 100 churches they have a festival called freakstock.de/ last year there were 5000 kids who love Jesus. I seen the Lord move on punk kids there ..the church just need to stop being the church and start be lovers of God eric .

Texan in China

November 11, 2009  6:10am

To Jason: Yes, the Holocaust really did happen, and there is ample historical evidence to prove this. The reason why Germany met such utter ruin at the an of WWII is because of the fanatical hatred of Adolf Hitler, whose megalomania led the German nation into near-oblivion. As for the Russian Revolution being a Jewish-led revolution--while many early Communists were Jews (take Karl Marx, for example), the Soviet Union ultimately turned on the Jews, too. (Remember the "Refuseniks" of the 1970s and 1980s?)

Klaus

November 10, 2009  4:58pm

What saddens me in the German Church is the lack of focus on God's Word. Centuries of liberal scholarship have abolished any thought that we could possible know with any confidence what God is telling us in His Word. Many scholars rather dare to focus on Luther than on God's Word because at least we can know what he said! What we are missing in Germany is a proper biblical hermeneutic that sees the Bible as the unified story of God's redemption. Most German scholars expressed their conviction in their articles that such an approach should be dismissed. But if we approach scripture with a conviction of God's sovereignty, we cannot but assume that what he communicates in his Word is indeed unified. If by God's grace this conviction redevelops in Germany, I have great hope that the Church, perhaps two or three generations, will find its way back to a word-centred ministry approach. Church is gathering around God's Word, Jesus Christ.

Jason

November 10, 2009  3:46pm

Germany was fire-bombed into smoking ruins by Britain and the US because under Hitler she dared to stand up to Stalinist Communism, a no-no as far as the New York and City of London Jewish communities were concerned - according to Chaim Bermant in his book The Jews, "To many outside observers, the Russian revolution looked like a Jewish conspiracy, especially when it was followed by Jewish-led revolutionary outbreaks in much of central Europe. The leadership of the Bolshevik Party had a preponderance of Jews and included Litvinov (real name Wallach), Liadov (Mandelshtam), Shklovsky, Saltz, Gusev (Drabkin), Zemliachka (Salkind), Helena Rozmirovich, Serafima Gopner, Yaroslavsky (Gubelman), Yaklovlev (Epstein), Riaznov (Goldendach), Uritsky and Larin. Of the seven members of the Politburo, the inner cabinet of the country, four, Trotsky (Bronstein), Zinoviev (Radomsky), Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Sverdlov, were Jews." The "Holocaust" is zionist propaganda, utterly disproved by researchers.

Healing Cross

November 10, 2009  8:14am

I'm a 42 year old pastor in the Protestant Church of Germany and I read this interview with a lot of embarrassment. Not only that the situation of the Church is seen much too badly, but also that the contrast made between it and churches in the USA and the UK is taken much too far. Although the churches in Germany are not reaching out to the majority of its inhabitants, they are still a very dominating cultural factor. We've got a German Pope and the now elected female head of the EKD, Bishop Käsmann, is positively acclaimed by many in public and media. It has to be admitted that church attendance is weak especially in the more Protestant areas, on the other hand there are many churches with full services in different congregations. Although I've never been to the US, I've often been to the UK and I've read wide across English theological literature. All that is addressed in this interview would also apply to both, the US and the UK. The interview doesn't give the whole picture.

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