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February 13, 2012

Home > 2009 > September (Web-only)Christianity Today, September (Web-only), 2009
Theology in the News
Amiable Impasse
Charitable Catholic/evangelical dialogue snags on imputation, authority.




Former Evangelical Theological Society (ETS) president Francis Beckwith's reversion to Rome in 2007 reignited perennial questions of how evangelicals should relate to Catholics. Namely, can a Roman Catholic credibly claim the evangelical label? Beckwith thinks so, and he has an ally in Beeson Divinity School dean Timothy George. Nevertheless, during their charitable dialogue George and Beckwith reiterated key differences on authority and how Christians are counted righteous before God. The Penner Foundation and Center for Applied Christian Ethics hosted the discussion at Wheaton College on September 3.

Familiar with speaking before evangelical audiences, Beckwith testified to an upbringing in a Catholic parish where he did not learn much about who Jesus claimed to be or what he came to do. His desire to follow Jesus led him to a Protestant church. After years of nurture and study among evangelicals, the philosopher ascended to the ETS presidency in 2006. Even after returning to his Roman Catholic roots, Beckwith contends he could sign the ETS doctrinal basis, which reads: "The Bible alone, and the Bible in its entirety, is the Word of God written and is therefore inerrant in the autographs. God is a Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, each an uncreated person, one in essence, equal in power and glory." He noted that someone could maintain ETS membership in good standing while holding any number of heresies, such as denying original sin. But as he learned during the controversy surrounding his reversion, Catholics are excluded.

"Apparently you can be a semi-Pelagian Nestorian in ETS," Beckwith said. "But Saints Athanasius, Augustine, Aquinas, and Thomas à Kempis are not welcome."

George responded by noting significant cultural changes since ETS formed in 1949. Evangelicals at the time positioned themselves against Protestant liberals and Roman Catholics. But liberal churches have since withered. And George maintains that statements such as "The Gift of Salvation," signed in 1994 by 20 prominent theologians with Evangelicals and Catholics Together, indicate growing consensus. Ten evangelicals and ten Protestants each agreed that "justification is not earned by any good works or merits of our own; it is entirely God's gift, conferred through the Father's sheer graciousness, out of the love that he bears us in his Son, who suffered on our behalf and rose from the dead for our justification." They even went so far as to write, "We understand that what we here affirm is in agreement with what the Reformation traditions have meant by justification by faith alone (sola fide)." George likened changes in the Roman Catholic Church to Martin Luther's gradual awakening as he studied God's Word.

"I want to challenge the fallacy of binary delineation," George said. "Evangelicals and Catholics are not polar opposites but are both within the spectrum of Christian faith and commitment."

Beckwith frequently appealed to experience when navigating the more treacherous terrain still separating Catholics from Protestants. He described a renewed spiritual life since he resumed practicing Catholic disciplines. Despite evident gifting and training in apologetics, Beckwith said he no longer worries so much about winning every argument. Now he is more willing to live with mystery. Speaking in a warm, personal tone, Beckwith worked to avoid antagonizing the mostly Protestant crowd that filled Wheaton's Edman Chapel.

"God's grace is meant not only to save me but transform me from the inside out," Beckwith said. "Protestants describe something similar as sanctification."





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Displaying 1–5 of 18 comments

Xino

September 11, 2009  6:06pm

Rick, if you're willing to admit that "tradition" is not teachings passed on from Christ or the apostles, but merely the hodge-podge of ideas that the Papacy extricates from Church history and puts its stamp of approval on, then I have nothing more to add to that. But your "apologists" are always speaking of "tradition" as a body of teaching handed to them outside of the Bible, in oral form. They cannot show any such tradition, and when pressed, equivocate their words. I must also be clear on this, because I sense that you think I'm the aggressor and that you're the ever-patient servant of the Church. An evangelical wants the Catholic Church to simply change a few of its ideas. A Catholic wants evangelical churches to disband, give all their property to the bishops' conference, fire their clergy, and submit to Rome. They want evangelicalism and any associated practices (adult baptism, congregational church polity, etc.) to vanish. That's not a fair conversation.

Roger

September 11, 2009  4:00pm

Rick: Eph 2:8-9 NIV "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- not by works, so that no one can boast." Eph 3:11-12 NIV "...according to his eternal purpose which he accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord. In him and through faith in him we may aproach God with freedom and confidence." The best example of faith alone comes for the thief on the cross. No works there, so no stopover in purgatory (doesn't exist), that night he was in paradise... Also.... Rom 6:23 NIV "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift if God is eternal life in Christ Jesus or Lord." Nobody dies outside of sin. No sin, no death.... But we all die, don't we? Yet we live... John 11: 25-26 NIV Jesus said to her "I am the resurection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?"...No works here either... Maybe God has made this too easy...

Rick

September 09, 2009  5:06pm

Xino, I don't want to be argumentative or sound argumentative. My point is really a simple one: the Church does not teach some of the things you say it does. * It does not claim tradition is hidden sayings of Christ, actually you were closer to right when you said "all we have is what the Church likes and picks" that's closer to the truth. There have been many correct and incorrect theological speculations (Arianism, Plagianism, etc) and the oral tradition is part of the process where the Church picks out what is heresy and what is orthodox. * I do not think the church states that tradition is equally authoritative or above scripture. Scripture is the inspired word of God. Tradition is not.

Rick

September 09, 2009  3:57pm

Xino: Scripture does not say we are saved by faith "alone," and I did not say we are saved by works "alone". The Catholic conception is that God saves us by grace: faith and works are both undeserved gifts given by God. If you are demanding that oral tradition must contain some secret words of Jesus, then the church cannot produce a single line of oral tradition. But then again the Church has never claimed oral tradition are some secret words of Christ. They claim it is an unbroken line of teaching and belief and interpretaiton of the Word of God going back to the apostles. You don't have to agree that it has any value, but that is what the church claims oral tradition include. If you want to find tradition is is pretty easy to find: look for a scripture commentary (the Navarre Commentary or Orthodox Commentary) that describes scripture in light of the Church Fathers, or read St. Augustine, or Ambrose, or the Didache, or the Eastern Fathers, or read the Documents of Vatican II

Xino

September 09, 2009  2:31pm

For example, ideas that various theologians have concocted like the two-wills doctrine may be considered useful by the Church. But they are not scripture - nor are they handed down to us from Jesus or Peter in any defined, preserved form. As a result, they certainly aren't on par with Scripture itself - whatever authority they have comes from their concordance with scripture. The Bible does exist within the context of human knowledge, so you may say that understanding koine Greek or Hebrew is a form of "tradition." But that's just being facetious. Does a Greek dictionary tell us what we need for salvation? Does a Hebrew lexicon, or a fact book about Roman-era socio-economics, take precedence over the book of Mark? Of course not. Catholics speak of "oral tradition" as a defined body of teaching passed on outside the Bible. As such, it should be quotable. We should have exact words of Jesus. If we don't, then all we have is what the Church likes and picks out from "church fathers."

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