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Kenya Battles Teen Pregnancy Crisis

How a Christian nurse stepped in to save a mother and her baby.

19 year old Kenyan mother is seen holding her 7 month old baby bump.

A 19 year old Kenyan mother is seen holding her 7 month old baby bump.

Christianity Today August 7, 2025
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One evening, Naomi Cherotich, 17, headed home from her school on the slopes of Mount Elgon in Bungoma County, western Kenya. A man from her village gave her a ride on his motorcycle. Then he gave her sweets, bananas, sugarcane, and some money. Then he slept with her. Soon Naomi was pregnant.

Naomi’s mother, Milka Chepchor, cried when she learned her daughter was pregnant. “I am a single mother, and my hope was that [Naomi] will complete her education and join college or university so that she can change my life,” she said. “I gave birth to my daughter when I was 16. The boy who caused all [this] denied the baby and never gave me support. He married another girl. My father chased me away from home and I stayed with my grandmother. Now history is repeating itself.”

The motorcycle rider hid when he realized that Naomi was pregnant, fearing arrest for having sex with a student. Naomi ran away from home to stay with her grandmother to hide from friends and neighbors who might mock her as a “loose girl.”

She complained to her grandmother of stomach pain, asking her to fetch local herbs from the forest to treat “stomach snakes” (worms), not revealing she was pregnant. After drinking one cup of the brewed herbs, Naomi started bleeding heavily. Her grandmother ran to the local administrator for help. Two men carried Naomi on a wheelbarrow for several miles until they found a motorbike. On it, sandwiched between the driver in front of her and a helper behind, she made it to Kopsiro Health Center.

Teenage pregnancy in Kenya remains a serious public health issue; the government estimates 15 percent of women age 15–19 are or have been pregnant. Poverty, lack of education, and breakdowns in family environment are main contributors. Although the age of consent in Kenya is 18, and laws are supposed to protect students still in secondary school, some men still coax impoverished girls to exchange sexual favors for small gifts.

In November 2023, Ministry of Health officials reported that 54 girls out of roughly 250 from a single Mount Elgon school became pregnant over the course of the year. Bungoma County—along with Nairobi, Kakamega, and Narok counties—has the highest teen pregnancy rate in Kenya. One of Kenya’s national newspapers attributed high pregnancy rates to parental neglect, poverty, and cultural practices. Girls as young as 10 drop out of school due to pregnancy. Bungoma County is predominantly Christian.

Kenya (at 18%), along with Uganda and Tanzania (25%), have higher teenage pregnancy rates than the global average of 15%.

At Kopsiro Health Center, Naomi received help from nurse Hesborn Sambo, who for ten years has been on a mission to save teenage mothers. During his internship at Bungoma Referral Hospital, Sambo witnessed many deaths from pregnancy complications. “Many of these girls were from my home area on the slopes of Mount Elgon,” he said. “I started reaching out to these teenage mothers.”

At first, administrators didn’t support his outreach to local teens, Sambo said. “I had nobody to help me. I used my own salary to travel around schools and villages talking to the pregnant girls and parents.”

Many health workers in Kenya sign in at their clinics then sneak away to work side gigs, such as treating patients at home, working at a private clinic, or going to meetings that offer “sitting allowances” for attending. Sambo recalled, “My bosses thought I was one of these kinds of people and were reluctant to support me.”

After several years of struggle, Sambo received support from administrators: a motorcycle. He started training school administrators, local government officials, and community health promoters.

Now, he asks pregnant teens to visit health facilities for prenatal care then shows them why it’s important to check their nutrition and blood pressure, give birth at a health facility, and put their babies on vaccine schedules. He also teaches them how to identify any complications that would be risky to both the mother and the baby.

“I thank God to have given me the energy to make this a success. I feel happy to see these girls [willing] to come out and ask questions at the facility and some even encouraging others to come out.”

Sambo grew up in a Christian family. Years ago, he had asked God to place him in the best position to help poor families. “I am a born again Christian, and everything I do, I put God first.”

The toughest task for Sambo is counseling the traumatized girls and their depressed parents: “I receive calls from parents who feel they have been ashamed by their daughters. So I visit the family and talk to them not to chase away their daughters for getting pregnant. I also talk to girls who are tempted to commit suicide because the society and the family has rejected them.”

David Kirui Kondo, a community health promoter from Chepich rural village, said many of the teens come from poor families with single parents who can’t afford basic needs. “You find that many of them get pregnant in December during long school holidays and during funerals where the community comes together dancing to music all night,” he said.

Another community health promoter, Violet Chebet Kipkirech from Ruarus village in Kopsiro, noted the lack of parental care and health services in villages: “You find that many families live next to the forest where they earn a living from. A father or mother who spends the whole day in the forest has no time for the children. They don’t talk to them. These young children have nowhere to seek help when they are faced with sexual challenges.”

Sambo said, “We used to register over 100 deaths of young mothers dying from pregnancy related complications, but that has reduced drastically to around 40, with more health facilities across the mountain. Lives are being saved.” Nevertheless, he said many deaths of pregnant teens are never documented, because they don’t visit health facilities. Many die silently in their villages, trying to procure abortions or committing suicide. No one reports the incidents for fear of arrests.

On July 28, Naomi Cherotich gave birth to a baby boy. Sambo’s lifesaving care became a turning point for Naomi. Sambo counseled her against suicide and abortion, offering prenatal care. Now, while her mother watches the baby, Naomi hopes to catch up with her classmates at school then study to become a teacher: “I am now a happy person. I can’t wait to go back to school and complete my education.” 

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Pakistan Seminary Leader Vindicated

Police change the locks after a government commission reviews evidence brought by rival boards.

Majid Abel reviews construction at Gujranwala Theological Seminary

Majid Abel, foreground, reviews the new construction at Gujranwala Theological Seminary.

Christianity Today August 7, 2025
Gujranwala Theological Seminary

Pakistani authorities have settled a dispute between rival boards at a 148-year-old Protestant seminary, restoring the leadership of Presbyterian pastor Majid Abel. 

A four-person commission of the Registrar of Joint Stock Companies found that the Gujranwala Theological Seminary board meeting that ousted Abel and made allegations of financial fraud was unconstitutional. Principal Nosheen Khan did not have the standing to call a special meeting, the commission said, and the board that met with her on January 2 had no legitimate authority. 

Decisions made in that meeting—including the decision to eject Abel, the seminary board’s chair—were not legal, according to the government commission.

The board that met two days later on January 4 “to address growing concerns about the credibility of the institution” and fired Khan was the legitimate board, the commission found. That board’s decisions are binding.

“I have the right to call a meeting,” Abel told Christianity Today. “Nosheen is an employee and, being an employee, she has no power to call a board meeting.”

Gujranwala Theological Seminary, located about 100 kilometers north of Lahore, is one of the premier Protestant schools in Pakistan. Founded by American Presbyterians, the seminary maintains a close relationship with the Presbyterian Church of Pakistan, the second largest Protestant denomination in the country. It also serves the largest denomination—the Church of Pakistan—and trains evangelical ministers from other churches. 

The seminary currently has about 90 students and has trained more than 12,000 ministers since 1877. Conflict at the school has the potential to divide Protestants across Pakistan. Earlier this year, police in Gujranwala warned provincial authorities that the quarrel could “breach the sectarian peace and harmony.”

The government commission met three times to review the evidence. Khan missed two of those meetings, according to government records. But officials looked at documents submitted by both parties, including the seminary’s constitution and the most recent registration paperwork

The commission ruled in Abel’s favor at the end of May. Khan told CT that she does not accept the decision.

“I am exposing [Abel] and will keep exposing him,” she said. “I have taken oath that I would fight till the last … and I will fight till the last breath.”

Khan said she has acted in accordance with the constitution but the commission “sold itself.” Government corruption is an ongoing issue in Pakistan. According to the World Justice Project’s Rule of Law Index, Pakistan has a serious problem with police officers and judges taking bribes. However, Khan has not offered any evidence of corruption.

Without additional evidence, the legal battle for control of the seminary appears to be over. The May ruling was decisive and was followed up with action. The chief of the city police and about 20 officers changed the seminary locks in June. They gave the new keys to Abel. 

Abel told CT that he believes that settles it and the seminary is safe now.

“There is nothing left in litigation, expect a waste of time,” he said. “We have given Nosheen an opportunity for a graceful exit. … She agreed and went home but then changed her mind.”

The origins of the dispute between Khan and Abel are unclear. Abel recommended Khan for the role of principal back in 2015. Khan, the first woman ordained in a Presbyterian church in Pakistan, ran day-to-day operations of the seminary while Abel acted as chief fundraiser. 

By 2024, however, the two seemed locked in irreconcilable differences. Three different mediation efforts—one led by a Presbyterian Church (USA) minister, one by a friendly city official, and one by a Christian leader in the Pakistani army—all failed.

Maqsood Kamil, a former professor at Gujranwala Theological Seminary who has had conflict with both Abel and Khan, said the controversy reflects larger problems with Presbyterianism in Pakistan. 

“The Presbyterian Church in Pakistan is mired in power struggles,” Kamil told CT. “Some leaders remain in office for decades, while others are pushed out through conspiracies.”

Gujranwala Theological Seminary’s annual board meeting in March 2024 was very contentious. Administrators raised questions about Khan’s leadership, seminary officials say. Khan said she also raised questions about Abel’s leadership. The seminary’s accountant resigned, was fired, or both. 

After the meeting, Khan brought in an outside firm to investigate possible financial misconduct in ongoing construction work, even though the board had signed off on an annual audit and asked no questions about the spending.

At the same time, the school did not submit meeting minutes and the other paperwork to the government and the seminary’s registration lapsed. Abel accused Khan of doing this deliberately as part of a scheme to “grab control of the institution,” according to an official complaint filed with the government commission. Khan said Abel realized she was uncovering fraud and became her “sworn enemy.”

New construction work stopped at the seminary that summer. The company doing the work—headed by Abel’s older brother, Ashraf—complained that Khan was delaying payments and making it impossible for him to keep laborers working. 

Khan said she had concerns about the financial arrangement. 

“Large sums of money had flown into the accounts of his two brothers and there were not receipts of it,” she told CT. “These are very clear things.”

Khan publicized the investigation of financial fraud at the end of the year. As CT and others reported, Abel was accused of sloppy recordkeeping and possible fraud. The financial firm that wrote the report, however, noted that its investigation was not done according to the best practices of the International Standards of Auditing. Investigators only had access to the information that Khan gave them, according to seminary officials. 

The legitimate board does not believe there is any merit to the allegations of financial misconduct. Seminary officials say the construction spending appeared proper, and the work was done for a reasonable amount of money. 

An internal review of financial records also showed that Abel didn’t handle payments—Khan did. She told CT it’s true that she signed off on construction spending.

“The accountant would bring the final financial report for me to sign, which I would sign,” she said. “Now I realize I made a serious mistake.”

Khan’s replacement at Gujranwala Theological Seminary told CT that the construction work is finished and everything looks good. 

“The building is amazing,” said Jack Haberer, a minister in the mainline Presbyterian Church (USA). “[We have a] very large lecture hall, four large classrooms, and administrative offices. About 6,000 square feet. In round numbers, it would cost at least $600,000 in the US. It was built there for about $120,000 US.”

Haberer said the school is ready for a new semester and officials hope to turn a new page. Gujranwala Theological Seminary will start classes in September. 

Additional reporting by Asif Angelo Aqeel.

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Make Christianity Beautiful Again?

Followers of Jesus must be people of good news rather than good taste.

Inkwell August 7, 2025
"The Ruins of Holyrood Chapel" by Louis Daguerre

I am a slave to beauty. 

My mother was an art historian, and my father was a literary junkie who had read the entire canon of Western and Eastern masterpieces by the time he was 20 years old. Some of my earliest childhood memories are of being carted around in a stroller across London, speeding through the Tate Modern, the Tate Britain, the National Gallery, and the National Portrait Gallery. 

Almost every childhood holiday involved my sweaty child hands being pulled through the Louvre in Paris, the Uffizi in Florence, and almost every cathedral in continental Europe while Mum took notes. She would sit me down in front of the Impressionists and try to explain to her ungrateful boy the impact of linseed oil on paint.

Meanwhile, at night, my dad would put me to bed by telling stories out of Tolkien’s The Silmarillion. Until the age of 24, I was convinced that the great war fought under the Two Trees of Valinor that gave light to the world was a creation of my dad’s imagination, until I realized he was simply a wonderful plagiarist. 

It was a privileged upbringing, and I am infinitely grateful for it; it has served me well throughout my life. But it produced in me the most awful of faculties: that thing we call “good taste.” Other people call it “pretentious,” and C. S. Lewis called it a “gluttony of the subtler kind.”

Truth be told, aesthetic value often means more to me than moral value. I find bad art more offensive to my soul than crime. Despite my best intentions, I find it hard to resist the impulse to roll my eyes at the mediocre and to critique the great and the good. And nowhere is my eye more critical than when it turns to Christian art—even from its very beginning. 

Christ Walking on Water, AD 249, New Haven, Yale University Art Gallery. Wikimedia Commons. Edited by Inkwell.

This is one of the earliest Christian depictions of Jesus. Can you see him? Painted on faded Roman plaster around AD 240, the painting shows four disciples perched on a boat, raising their hands toward two people on the water. There’s Peter, decapitated by 1,800 years of history and erosion. And next to Peter, holding his hands, is a figure wearing a flowing toga, the seams vanishing into the seams of the water. 

Does he have hair? It’s hard to tell, but he seems to have some pretty intense eyebrows. Behold the man—ecce homo—here is Jesus. The water-walking God-Man reaches his hand out to the terrified Peter and says over the storm, “Take courage! It is I. Don’t be afraid” (Matt. 14:27).

This little panel was discovered in the baptistry of a converted house church built into the walls of Dura-Europos, one of the most eastern cities of the Roman Empire. In a city that pulsated with the strength of Rome, crowded with temples to the gods of the world, a motley community of Greek, Syriac, and Latin speakers met to worship their God. And in the back of this house was a small, windowless room with a pool built into the wall—the baptistry. 

The walls are painted in burnt umber tones that tell stories from the Bible, including our water-walking Jesus. If you were a new believer, you would have been led into this room with the whole community, oil lamps illuminating the drawings in the flicker of smoky candlelight. You would have gone down into the depths of the cool water, hearing the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. As you blinked the water out of your eyes, you would lock eyes with your Savior—Take courage.

It’s a beautiful scene. But if I’m completely honest, if I take off my gold-tinted sentimental glasses and put on my well-trained, curated, beauty-intoxicated European eyes, it’s actually kind of a rubbish, pastiche drawing. 

Jesus’ arms are disproportionate to his body, and anyone with a working knowledge of human anatomy can tell you that human legs are meant to be more than two sticks. It looks like the kind of thing a child would bring back after the obligatory Noah’s ark Sunday school session. Part of me wishes it were Rembrandt’s Prodigal Son greeting me on the wall instead. 

Beauty is very much on the lips of today’s theological, philosophical, cultural, and social discourse. Modern man “doubts the truth, resists the good, but is fascinated by beauty,” wrote Cardinal Godfried Danneels. Christians from across the aisle have taken up the call: Make Christianity Beautiful Again. How many times have I seen and heard the Dostoevsky quote “Beauty will save the world” typed over pictures of Gothic cathedrals or Italian marbled paper?

It seems the agenda is set. We must appeal to beauty as our chief apologetic. Beauty is the call from God himself—drawing us upward and outward, propelling us beyond the closed realm of a physical universe and into the realm of splendor and delight, which ultimately calls us into the presence of the divine. And to this I say hallelujah, amen. 

Yes to patronage of the arts. Yes to poetry nights over lectures. Yes to attending to the details of the human experience of Christian worship and prayer. But in all these things, let us not become aesthetes—addicts to the aesthetic. Let us not become Christians of good taste, idolaters of beauty.

Let us remember that beauty is also a terrifying and accursed thing. The most powerful gifts from God can become insidious and soul-destroying curses. One of the oldest myths in the Western world is about how powerful men went to war for the sake of beauty. When Napoleon ordered the invasion of Italy, he did so in part to take possession of the best paintings.

When we appeal to beauty, we are playing with serious firepower. “We don’t consume beauty like a commodity—beauty consumes us like a fire,” said French philosopher Jean-Louis Chrétien. Beauty is persuasive, seductive, violent, even! We don’t grasp it. It grasps us

Beauty captivates uswhich means that it also takes us captive. So powerful is its force that we can confuse an aesthetic experience with a mystical one. It is entirely possible to find what is evil and foolish to be beautiful. Satan himself comes as an angel of light and beauty.

Like everything under the sun, beauty needs redemption for it to be used for the good pleasure of God. And redemption is always shaped like the Redeemer: crucified, dead, and resurrected. The crucifixion of Jesus was supremely ugly—a disfigured, beaten, bent, tortured body, unjustly murdered. Yet by it, we are made beautiful in the sight of God. 

If we are to have a Christian conception of beauty, it must be one that is crucified and resurrected. Jesus, who had “no beauty or majesty to attract us” (Isa. 53:2), gave us eyes and hearts to understand that beauty itself has been transfigured on the cross.

As St. Bonaventure wrote, “Who would look for beauty of form now in such a roughly-handled body? The most beloved Lord is stripped naked … who possessed neither beauty nor form … yet it was from this [ugliness] of our Saviour that the price paid for our beauty streamed forth.” And that’s why those paintings from Dura-Europos had such an impact on me—they condemned the man of good taste. 

Christian art is beautiful insofar as it speaks of the truly beautiful one, the crucified one. As those early Christian believers went under the water of the baptismal font and rose to new life, face-to-face with an artistically disfigured Christ, they encountered the beauty of beauties. 

The Dura-Europos Christ reminds me of another encounter I had with a water-walking Jesus. One thousand eight hundred years ago and five thousand miles away in Hong Kong, there is a mural of Christ walking on water. 

It adorns the wall of a drug rehabilitation center run by one of the most faithful missionaries of the 20th century, Jackie Pullinger. Painted directly onto white concrete, Jesus walks across an acrylic sea. Behind him is not the dusty landscape of Galilee but the skyline of Hong Kong, and Peter is about to step out onto the water, reaching out toward Jesus.

The paintwork can’t compare with anything in the Louvre or the Uffizi, and the human proportions are slightly off. Yet this has been the Christ who has accompanied thousands of addicts, gang members, and prostitutes through deep darkness and into his beautiful light, and it is under the gaze of this Christ that they were baptized. It is this Christ who, every morning, hears the sweet sound of worship from their lips. When I was confronted with this painting, I sobbed at the beauty of it.

If we are to make Christianity beautiful again, we must keep this Christian experience of beauty at the very heart. Otherwise, all we’ll do is replace the idols of good arguments and reason with aesthetic craft and beauty. I, for one, am desperate to be a person of good news rather than good taste.

So can beauty save the world? Who knows. The jury is still out. But one thing we know for sure is that a saved world is beautiful. Lord, give us eyes to see.

Daniel Kim is the cofounder and head writer of ChristianStory, an animation project bringing to life the history and theology of Christianity. He is also the Anglican curate at St. Aldates church in Oxford.

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Pastor, Don’t Be Afraid to Talk About Money

The money talk is ministry too. Preaching on generosity isn’t about guilt trips or fundraising goals—it’s about forming disciples who trust God and treasure Christ.

CT Pastors August 6, 2025
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Money is one of the most frequently discussed topics in Scripture—and one of the most avoided in the pulpit. Many pastors shy away from it for various reasons. They’re afraid of sounding greedy. They don’t want to be mistaken for a prosperity preacher who takes advantage of others. They worry about alienating newcomers by making them feel unwelcome or pressured. Some simply lack confidence in their ability to teach on stewardship, so they sidestep the topic altogether. 

But that silence comes at a cost.

When we fail to address money from the pulpit, we leave our people vulnerable. Vulnerable to fear. To consumerism. To a shallow form of discipleship that never touches one of the most powerful resources in their day-to-day lives. 

Preaching about money isn’t about fundraising. It’s about spiritual formation.

Where generosity begins

At the heart of biblical generosity is the character of God himself. The gospel begins with the most generous act in history: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son  … ” (John 3:16). Giving is not a peripheral issue; it’s central to the story of redemption. 

So when pastors teach on money, we’re not launching campaigns. We’re shaping disciples. 

The apostle Paul spoke plainly and passionately about generosity. In 2 Corinthians 8–9, he calls it a grace, a privilege, and even a test of sincerity (2 Cor. 8:7–8). He urges believers not only to give, but to excel in giving as they do in faith, speech, and knowledge. He teaches that God loves a cheerful giver (2 Cor. 9:7). For Paul, generosity wasn’t an obligation. It was evidence—proof that God was at work in a person’s heart. 

This is the heart of pastoral ministry. We are shepherding people into the grace of giving, the joy of trust, and the freedom of living openhanded lives.

Obstacles in the way

Some churchgoers carry baggage from manipulative appeals. Others have never been discipled in biblical generosity. Still others are simply afraid. 

Martin Luther once said, “There are three conversions necessary: the conversion of the heart, the mind, and the purse.” If pastors only focus on the first two, we shortchange our people’s spiritual growth. 

Pastors must also guard their own hearts. It’s easy to slip into jealousy or comparison, measuring our ministry by another church’s offering totals. When one church gives generously, another may feel inadequate. But giving is never about competing or comparing. It’s about keeping in step with the Spirit.

Many pastors find unexpected joy in teaching on giving—not because they love money but because they love seeing God’s people set free. There is deep satisfaction in walking with someone who begins to trust God with his finances for the first time. It’s one of the clearest signs of spiritual maturity. 

John Rinehart, founder and CEO of Gospel Patrons, put it this way

God raises up preachers and patrons, Christians with different gifts and different parts to play, but united around the same master and the same mission.

From transaction to discipleship

Generosity in the church isn’t a mere transaction. It’s a form of discipleship. It’s the fruit of belonging, worship, and mission.

Paul gives us a glimpse of this in Philippians 4:10, when he writes, “I rejoiced greatly in the Lord that at last you renewed your concern for me. Indeed, you were concerned, but you had no opportunity to show it.” That single verse captures the dynamic behind true gospel partnership: concern and opportunity. 

As pastors, we help people connect the two. We help them see the opportunities to partner in the work of the gospel, and we help them feel the concern that fuels generous support. Often, people already want to give; they just don’t yet see where their giving can make a gospel impact. And that takes more than a pledge or commitment. It takes vision. Clarity. A sense of shared purpose and spiritual investment.

This requires flexibility. What moves one person to generous action may leave another unmoved, so there’s no one-size-fits-all approach. God stirs each heart in different ways, and wise pastors learn to resist formulaic approaches and instead pursue creative, Spirit-led invitations to give.

Jesus commended the widow who gave two small coins (Luke 21:1–4), and he rebuked a rich man who hoarded his abundance instead of using it for kingdom purposes (Luke 12:16–21). The difference wasn’t the amount. It was the heart.

Don’t be afraid to help people think imaginatively about their resources. Time, money, talents, property, investments, even business influence—ll of it can be leveraged for the glory of God.

From a scarcity mindset to a kingdom mindset

One of the great pastoral tasks is helping people move from a scarcity mindset to a kingdom mindset. We are not orphans; we are beloved children of a generous Father. 

In 1 Kings 17, we read of the widow of Zarephath. Down to her last meal, she chose to give her flour and oil to feed the prophet Elijah. She risked everything, and God miraculously sustained her through the drought: “The jar of flour was not used up and the jug of oil did not run dry” (1 Kings 17:16). 

When we step out in faith, God’s provision meets us. C. S. Lewis once said, “Relying on God has to begin all over again every day, as if nothing had yet been done.” That’s the kind of trust we’re called to cultivate in our congregants. A daily dependence. A lived confidence that God both guides and provides.

But before we can call others to live generously, we have to examine ourselves. Ask yourself the hard questions:

How do I relate to money? 

Have I surrendered my finances to the lordship of Christ? 

Am I leading my family in generosity? 

Jesus said, “You cannot serve both God and money” (Luke 16:13). It’s not just a financial warning. It’s a spiritual reality. And our people need to see us model a better way: We must lead with transparency, courage, and expectant faith.

Fuel for the mission

In a world at war with brokenness and sin, generosity becomes ammunition for mission. 

Ross Lester, a pastor in Austin, reminded an audience once that just as World War II’s Allied supply lines sustained the frontlines of battle, today’s givers support the frontlines of church planting, evangelism, discipleship, and mercy ministry. We must not treat generosity as a back-office concern. It is mission critical. 

Pastors are called to build supply lines—through clear communications, relationships, and opportunities—that mobilize the church to reach the world.

Consider Oskar Schindler, who spent his entire fortune saving Jewish lives during the Holocaust. That kind of sacrificial giving reflects the heart of Christ, who gave all for the sake of others. Our legacy in Christ is not what we accumulate, but what we give away.

Eternal return on investment

In business, ROI—return on investment—is king. But in the kingdom of God, the return is far greater: the glory of God and the salvation of souls.

Success isn’t measured in dollars but in faithfulness. 

As pastors, we are not fundraising professionals. We are gospel heralds calling people to live like loved children, not fearful orphans.

No one ever out-gives God. No one ever regrets living generously.

Jesus is the treasure. When we truly grasp this, giving becomes more of a joy and less of a burden. It becomes an act of worship, a tangible expression of trust, and a participation in God’s own generous nature.

Let’s teach our people not just how to give but why: because God is worthy, and because the world needs to see what radical, liberating, unselfish generosity looks like. 

“Where your treasure is, there your heart will be also” (Matthew 6:21). 

Let’s help them treasure Jesus.

Shaun Garman is the president of One Gospel Network, as well as a pastor, speaker, and church planting coach.

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Court Rules California Church Members Can’t Sue

An Orange County congregation’s bylaws permitted a controversial split from Vineyard USA.

Pastors Alan and Kathryn Scott respond to a lawsuit alleging fraud and deception.

Pastors Alan and Kathryn Scott respond to a lawsuit alleging fraud and deception.

Christianity Today August 6, 2025
Screengrab / Dwelling Place Anaheim

Key Updates

August 6, 2025

Dwelling Place has members. And it has members. Only the latter are allowed to sue the former Vineyard USA church for suddenly leaving the charismatic denomination, a California appeals court ruled last week. 

The nine people who brought the case to court, alleging the church split was part of a $62 million fraud perpetrated by pastors Alan and Kathryn Scott, do not have legal standing, according to the ruling. The nine attended services, participated in the life of the congregation, and tithed, but they were not on the board of directors. And according to the church bylaws, people who are part of the congregation are only “associate members,” while those on the board are “voting members.”

“Dwelling Place’s bylaws … separate its members into two classes,” Justice Maurice Sanchez wrote. “Appellants contend they are members. But … they are not corporate members within the statutory boundaries.”

Beyond that, according to the unanimous decision, the bylaws give the senior pastor responsibility over “all ecclesiastical decisions,” and the move to take the church out of the Vineyard is protected by the First Amendment.

Carol Wimber-Wong, who started the Anaheim church and the Vineyard movement with her late first husband, John Wimber, did not live to see the court rule against her. She died in January at the age of 87. 

A group representing the other eight plaintiffs, SaveVCFAnaheim, said in a statement on X that they are considering an appeal to the state Supreme Court.

“The mission has never been about courts,” the group said. “SaveVCFAnaheim will not stop until justice is served.”

Dwelling Place declined CT’s request for comment. The lawsuit was not mentioned in the Sunday service. Alan Scott preached on glorifying God and putting God’s glory on display. 

“The price of faith is that sometimes God asks us to do things that others don’t really like,” he said. “The story of God keeps moving and advancing.” 

November 22, 2022

The widow of a legendary Vineyard leader is suing the pastors of a Southern California church for fraud and the alleged misappropriation of $62 million.

Vineyard Anaheim, the “mother church” of the Vineyard movement since it was planted by John Wimber in 1977, left the charismatic denomination without much explanation in March. The current senior pastor, Alan Scott, told the church that the Holy Spirit just led them to split. There were no big disagreements with the national organization, no disputes about direction, and no personal conflicts.

“We don’t really understand why,” Scott said in a recording of a Sunday service obtained by CT. “I wish I really could sit before you today and say, ‘Here are the six reasons,’ ‘Here’s our issues,’ ‘Here are our grievances,’ or whatever. … We don’t always know what’s on the other side of obedience.”

But Carol Wimber-Wong, who cofounded the church with her late husband John Wimber and remained an “active and tithing member” until the church left the Vineyard, has a simpler explanation for what happened. There were not six reasons, she and eight other former members and leaders allege, but 62 million.

The former members claim Alan and Kathryn Scott knew they wanted to leave Vineyard USA but lied about it when applying for the leadership positions at the Anaheim church so they could take control of the $55 million mortgage-free building and $7 million in the bank.

“The Scott Defendants concealed their true intentions,” the lawsuit claims. “Defendant Scotts sought the position as Senior Pastors of Vineyard Anaheim with the deceitful motive of controlling tens of millions of dollars of assets and disassociating with Vineyard USA.”

The former members say that deceit has deprived them “of a church they have long called home” and “caused great emotional and spiritual distress.”

The lawsuit was filed in Orange County, California, Superior Court on November 10. Wimber-Wong is joined in the suit by church members Steve and Nancy Bray, Stephanie Ruppe, and David Edmondson; former pastor Lance Pittluck; and former board members Don Salladin, Joe Gillentine, and James Gillentine.

The pastor and board members all voted to hire the Scotts, who had previously led a Vineyard Church in Northern Ireland, in January 2018. They now regret the decision.

According to the suit, the Scotts weren’t originally interested in the position in Anaheim. After leaving the church in Northern Ireland and coming to the US in part so Kathryn Scott could pursue a career in worship music, they decided they were done with the Vineyard.

“It’s not an environment where we would want to plant our lives or raise our girls,” Alan Scott wrote in an email in May 2017, according to the suit. “We have arrived at the painful conclusion that we won’t be a part of a local Vineyard church in the next part of our journey.”

At about the same time, however, the Scotts casually asked Mike Safford, one of the ministers in the church, about the congregation’s assets. Safford reported that he thought it was just “shop talk,” but his wife was concerned about ulterior motives.

Nine months later, the Scotts did apply for the leadership positions at Vineyard Anaheim. According to the lawsuit, they told Safford, now leading a Vineyard fellowship in Tehachapi, California, that they had changed their minds about the denomination. Even if they still sometimes disagreed with the national leadership, they would “never take Vineyard Anaheim out of the Vineyard movement,” they said. They promised they would “honor the history and Carol Wimber.”

The hiring committee didn’t know the Scotts had said they were leaving the Vineyard but did ask several times about their commitment to the denomination, according to the lawsuit. During the interview process, one person asked about the influence of other theology on Alan Scott’s writing and teaching. He responded he was “Vineyard through and through.”

Another person asked about the couple’s association with other charismatic ministries, including Bethel, an independent megachurch in Redding, California. She recalls receiving the same answer: “Vineyard through and through.”

Joe Gillentine, who chaired the hiring committee, claims the Scotts were specifically asked whether they would separate from the denomination. They said that “leaving the Vineyard was never even a question.”

The answer seemed more ambiguous in retrospect.

The lawsuit claims the Scotts knew they were going to leave the Vineyard and “planned and maneuvered for several years,” before making their move.

“They had no intention of applying for the vacant senior pastor position[s] until learning of the Anaheim Vineyard’s substantial assets,” the lawsuit says. “They misled the Anaheim Vineyard Search Committee and board of directors.”

The Scotts have not yet responded to the legal filing but made a public statement in the Anaheim church, now called the Dwelling Place. They also posted a “family update” online.

“We understand that our disassociation from VUSA has caused strong emotions, but we didn’t expect individuals to attribute evil intent in the hearts of Alan and Kathryn Scott,” a written statement says. “The accusations in the complaint couldn’t be further from the truth.”

The Scotts say they hoped to deal with the disagreement “honorably, relationally, and biblically,” and “avoid a public airing of ecclesiastical issues.”

Whether or not the dispute is an ecclesiastical issue is one of the first things the California court will have to decide. According to the 1871 Watson v. Jones Supreme Court ruling, judges cannot weigh in on “a matter which concerns theological controversy, church discipline, ecclesiastical government, or the conformity of the members of the church to the standards of morals required of them.” This is known as the ecclesiastical abstention doctrine or sometimes the church autonomy doctrine.

The former church members told the California court they believe it does have jurisdiction. “This civil action arises from a secular and nonecclesiastical dispute,” the lawsuit says, involving “the business operations” of the church.

Outside the court, the Anaheim church’s departure from Vineyard has prompted debates among charismatic Christians about accountability, spiritual discernment, and the pastor’s authority. Some Vineyard pastors are moving away from the model of decisive leaders, emphasizing instead the importance of collaboration and consensus. Not everyone likes these and other changes.

“The elephant in the room that nobody has wanted to talk about for years is that … the Vineyard movement has walked away from its original core values and mandate,” wrote Duke Taber, a pastor who left the Vineyard after 10 years and started a church in Nevada with Global Awakening.

Taber said to him it seems like Scotts are returning to the Spirit-led independence that Wimber himself preached and modeled.

“It looks like they have returned to Vineyard values and practice,” he said. “John Wimber talked about the need for the pastor to be autonomous and not board ruled and that a church should not be board controlled.”

The Vineyard denomination, for its part, does not make any legal claim to the Anaheim building or bank account. Vineyard USA is not part of the lawsuit and said in a statement that its only involvement has been to offer pastoral care.

After the Scotts announced the church would be leaving Vineyard to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, a representative of the denomination’s board of trustees begged them to reconsider. He said their account of God’s guidance was “spiritually implausible” and did not meet the biblical standards for discernment.

Other national leaders criticized the move as well.

“God does speak today!” Rich Nathan, pastor emeritus of Vineyard Columbus, the largest congregation in the movement, wrote on social media. “But whenever a so-called ‘leading’ is obviously self-seeking, fundamentally dishonest, lacking in accountable discernment, demonstrably hurts others and especially when money or power is involved, you can rest assured that it is NOT God who is leading!”

According to Carol Wimber-Wong and the other former members of the church, though, the lawsuit isn’t about ecclesiastical issues and questions of proper spiritual discernment. It’s about fraud, $62 million, negligent misrepresentation in the hiring process, and breach of fiduciary duty.

The first hearing is scheduled for April 28.

Theology

Will TikTok Save Democracy—or Destroy It?

Columnist

The latest cultural shift to a highly visual, quick attention platform is discipling us in ways we need to question.

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Christianity Today August 6, 2025
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This piece was adapted from Russell Moore’s newsletter. Subscribe here.

A few years ago, I started hearing more and more people saying, “Twitter is becoming real life.”

What they meant is that the toxic arguments on the social media app were defining a whole era—shaping and forming the way we communicate with each other in everything from school board meetings to presidential Rose Garden briefings to church business discussions.

What if, however, the Twitter era is closing and the next era of American life will be defined by TikTok? Will that be good news or bad?

That question has lodged in my thinking for several weeks now, after I was surprised to hear the case for some good news about the future of American democracy. I was even more surprised to hear the basis for that projection: TikTok.

On a recent episode of The Ezra Klein Show, the New York Times journalist joined up with television commentator Chris Hayes to talk about the victory from earlier this summer of socialist Zohran Mamdani over former governor Andrew Cuomo in the Democratic primary for New York City mayor. The part of the conversation that intrigued me was when the two started making fun of Cuomo’s attempts at TikTok skills.

In fact, the two went far afield of Cuomo and discussed the cringe factor of elected officials and candidates awkwardly trying to do TikTok dances, proving with every attempt just how alien they are to this mode of communication.

What if, Klein and Hayes speculated, the most important thing to notice sociologically about Mamdani’s win is not his socialist economics or his anti-Israel foreign policy but instead the way he won: by seeming to be the first major candidate who seems natively comfortable with communicating through TikTok videos and Instagram reels?

“I don’t want to over–Marshall McLuhan everything and say the medium is always the message, and everybody is shaped by their mediums,” Klein said, “because obviously there are a lot of people on TikTok or in vertical video who are not like Zohran Mamdani or don’t even follow what I’m talking about.”

Still, Klein said, we ought to pay attention to how the evolutions of social media platforms have affected the velocity of “vibe shifts” in American political life. To make his point, Klein pointed out that Barack Obama is bad at Twitter. That is not to say that Obama is inept at communicating through digital technologies. He was—after unsuccessful candidate Howard Dean—perhaps the first to really put those media to work at mobilizing and maintaining a constituency. But Obama is not a creature of Twitter. Klein argued,

But with the rise of the populist right, and to a lesser extent, populist left politics all across the world, all at the same time in this punctuated period, starting in the late 2000s or early 2010s, I believe the single strongest force there was not just immigration, and it wasn’t economics, as you can really see in the data. I think it was the rise of central communications platforms of politics being high-conflict, high-engagement, compressed-text platforms.

“These platforms, they’re about groups,” he said. “They’re about engagement within and then against other groups. They’re about drawing these lines very, very carefully. They create, by nature, a more populist form of politics. Or at least they create a communicative structure of politics where it is easier for outsider populist politicians to thrive.”

One needn’t buy into all of Klein’s argument to see the contours of what he’s describing, even within the church.

To be an excellent preacher or a successful evangelist is a wholly different skill set from gaining “influence” by attracting followers on Twitter, now X, which cannot traffic in deliberation or depth but only in the shock tactics of trolling—finding ever more extreme positions, communicated in ways designed to cause anger or fear. In those cases, one’s “enemies” are just as useful as one’s “friends” in amplifying one’s influence.

That technological era, Klein argues, is coming to a close, ending like the “hope and change will bring us all together” vibe of the emerging Facebook era of the mid-2000s.

“The thing coming after it—when you look at TikTok, when you look at Instagram reels: It’s not that no content is high-conflict political content, but most of it is much more day-in-the-life stuff,” he said. “It’s very highly visual.”

What Klein is noticing in some of the new breed of younger political leaders is that their grammar is not Twitter grammar but TikTok grammar. Hayes conceded, “Yes. Fun, kind of goofy.”

Forget for a moment whether it was good or bad, real or fake. Ask what these politicians are trying to portray—walking up to people on the street and listening to them.

If this becomes the dominant ethos of American politics, would that shape culture? Probably. Would it be something other than curating Twitter rage? Possibly. With less combat coming in the cultural ecosystem and more visual performance, does that mean, necessarily, that it’s good for democracy? No.

Philosopher Antón Barba-Kay, writing in Hedgehog Review, identifies some of the same shifts as Klein, calling this new political environment a “TikTokracy.” In such a culture, democracy is no longer rooted in civic education or rational argument but in who can win the algorithmic war for attention—an extension of the Twitter culture, not a turnaround from it.

For Barba-Kay, this is not just a problem of politics. The loss of the ability to follow sustained arguments—and to persuade with them—cuts at the very thing that makes a democratic republic possible. And that’s before we even start to ask what small group of tech entrepreneurs and international powers, corporations and governments, are controlling the algorithms that seize our attention.

The first step to helping people learn to give attention is to treat them as people who can give attention. Politicians might need to learn how to colonize vertical video, but that’s because politicians are responding to the last cultural shift, to people who were shaped by whatever came immediately before.

The church, though, has a responsibility to shape people for the future—their future and the future of those in their area of influence.

In that sense, the call for the church is not so much to figure out how to speak the grammar of TikTok or of whatever follows it. It’s to realize that our cultural grammars are shaping us, forming us, discipling us, right down to the questions we ask.

We don’t simply need answers for questioning seekers—although we need that. We need forms of mentoring, modeling, and internal culture that are counter-algorithms. We need “Thus saith the Lord,” and we also need what Jesus taught us: “Take heed how you hear” (Luke 8:18, ESV).

Lots of things Jesus said to us are countercultural. One of the hardest, for the years ahead, might be words that some of us skipped right over: “Pay attention.”

Russell Moore is the editor in chief at Christianity Today and leads its Public Theology Project.

Culture

Sing a Song of Death

Aging artists of faith are writing about mortality. For many of them, that’s nothing new.

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Christianity Today August 6, 2025
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Last night I dreamt that I was dead,
And when the eulogy was read,
All my friends and family said,
“She really tried her best.”

So begins “Memento Mori,” a song by award-winning Christian artist Carolyn Arends, who has been thinking about death a lot in recent years.

Not just anyone’s death. Her own. Though this isn’t her first lyrical brush with mortality.

“I’ve always been a touch death-obsessed in my music,” said Arends, 57. “As a songwriter, I’m interested in exploring ultimate questions, and in many respects, death is the ultimate ultimate question. If you use the process of writing songs as a way of getting inside the big mysteries, you’re going to end up writing about death sooner than later.”

Arends is hardly alone in that pursuit. Artists of faith have always written songs about mortality. In fact, artistic depictions of the afterlife are almost as old as humankind, as ancient as prehistoric cave paintings.

But this music isn’t that. As contemporary artists age, a topic that was once a far-off notion is now a lot more real—and urgent.

Just ask Randy Stonehill, one of the pioneers of Christian rock, who has been wrestling with some serious health issues lately.

Stonehill, 73, says those challenges “have certainly brought my thoughts about mortality into sharp focus. In my younger years, I felt pretty bulletproof, and death just seemed surreal to me.”

But for Stonehill and many others, death now seems increasingly imminent.

Two songs on Stonehill’s forthcoming album, due sometime in 2026, are as straightforward as it gets. On “One Last Song Before I Say Goodbye,” he croons, “It’s really been a thrill. / I’ll keep doin’ it until / They come to place those pennies on my eyes.”

Another, “The Last Day,” is paired with an especially stark music video. A doctor gently shakes his head no as a heart monitor flatlines; Stonehill wanders through a cemetery. Some lyrics:

On the last day, it just might be tomorrow.
On the last day, no one ever knows.
On the last day, time will never tell you.
On the last day, it’s the restless wind that blows.

On the last day, will you hear the angels singing?
On the last day, will you see beyond your sight?
On the last day, will someone come to greet you?
On the last day, down that corridor of light.

Stonehill isn’t the only one of his contemporaries who has imagined flatlining. In 2014, Bob Bennett was scheduled for open heart surgery—“where they flay you open like a carp,” he said—to replace a defective valve.

“And all of a sudden,” he said, “I’m making a will and thinking, What if this doesn’t go the way I want it to? That’s where I began to face my mortality.”

Bennett, 70, will soon release a new album, Everlasting Day. Always an open book in his songwriting, Bennett is especially vulnerable on the new tune “I’m Still Afraid to Die”:   

I know who promises I will have a place
Forever with him to finally see his face.
I want to be comforted, but no matter how I try,
I worry and I wonder why I’m still afraid to die.

Bennett, who has been wrestling with health concerns in the past year, said, “It’s been surprising and a little shameful to me to realize how threatened my faith and attitude are just by not feeling well.

“We don’t talk about this much in our culture, even in church,” he continued, “but the idea of dying a good death doesn’t get much airtime. I don’t worry about what’s going to happen after I die. I’m worried, What if I don’t rise to the occasion? You have this fantasy that you’re going to go out with your boots on. Well, what if you go out with a whimper instead of a shout?”

However he goes out, Bennett is confident about what awaits him on the other side. The new album’s title track proclaims, “All I know is that Jesus / Is preparing a place / Where I will come home to stay.”

Like Stonehill and Bennett, John Michael Talbot has had some health scares in recent years. About a decade ago, Talbot came close to dying when his blood pressure soared to a potentially lethal 220/110.

He was rushed to a hospital, where he says “something supernatural” happened: Two angels—his guardian angel and the angel of death, one on each side—“escorted me out of the hospital room and allowed me to view paradise.”

“I was in an eternal realm,” he said. “I could see all of my sins, and I could see all of God’s mercy. And it overwhelmed me.”

Talbot said the angels returned him to his bed and doctors got his blood pressure under control with medication. But he’s thought about death a lot since then.

“For a couple years, I thought death was imminent,” said Talbot, now 71. “I’m better now, praise God. But ever since then, I’ve been ready to go.”

His latest album, Late Have I Loved You,shows that readiness. The title track, based on Augustine’s prayer of the same name, reflects a man prepared to meet his Maker:

I have tasted your bread; now I hunger for more.
I drink of your spirit; ever thirst now, my soul.
You touched me so gently; I long now for more.
Late have I loved you, O Lord.

Over the Rhine (OTR), the husband-wife duo of Linford Detweiler and Karin Bergquist, have recorded more than two dozen albums over three and a half decades, full of Holy Ghost–haunted tunes.

Their most recent project, 2024’s Hymn Time in the Land of Abandon, overtly addresses mortality on old standards like “I’ll Fly Away” and “In the Sweet By and By.”

But songs about mortality are nothing new to this couple. Detweiler, 60, said the first song he ever penned for OTR, “Eyes Wide Open” on 1991’s Till We Have Faces, had a reference to death.

“From the very beginning,” he said, “the inevitability of my own death was present in my writing. Johnny Cash said something along the lines of ‘There are only three subjects available to the writer: love, God and death.’ I’ve always tried to write about all three.”

What I’ll Remember Most”—from 2003’s Ohio, recently named one of Paste magazine’s 50 best albums of the 2000s—includes this lyric:

This is what I’ll remember most about dying:
So many moments like ghosts
Slipping through my hands in vain.

Like her husband, Bergquist, 58, often addresses mortality in her own lyrics—perhaps no more poignantly than  on “Wildflower Bouquet” from 2013’s Meet Me at the Edge of the World:

Bury my ashes with the dogs I loved,
My faithful companions from God above.
And ’neath a sycamore we’ll grow strong,
And the roots will bear us away.

I’ll be singing loud and laughing long,
A blaze of glory and an untold song.
So there’s no need for tears, my friend.
Just bring a wildflower bouquet.

Like Over the Rhine, Carolyn Arends has been addressing death since her first album, 1995’s I Can Hear You. “Seize the Day,” her hit single from that project, includes a verse about a bitter old man who grouses, “One day you’re a boy, and the next day you’re dead.”

Her self-described “death obsession” has never dimmed. “The practice of medieval monks greeting each other with memento mori (‘Remember your death’) has intrigued me for a long time,” she said. “This idea of keeping our death before us doesn’t have to be morbid. It can be liberating.”

She had a dream about those monks a few years ago, which prompted “Memento Mori.”

Then a monk entered my dream and started laughing.
That’s when the whole thing turned into Latin.

Memento mori: Remember you will die.
So live the story you want to tell.
Memento mori: You only get one life.
So don’t be sorry; just live it well.

Bob Bennett first wrote about his own mortality in 1991’s “The Place I Am Bound”:

As my father before me and so now I,
Give pause to reflect on the day I will die.
As they lay me down in the cold of the ground,
Remember I am closer to the place I am bound.

His dad died at 72, so now that Bennett is a septuagenarian himself, he’s reflecting on that approaching day a little more frequently.

“As a kid, you know death is coming,” he said. “But there comes a time where it begins to become very personal. You start thinking, How long do I have? It’s a little daunting to start thinking about that kind of math.”

Daunting, but also liberating, as Arends noted. And even inspiring, said Talbot, who leads a monastic community.

“The classical teaching of the monastic tradition is that you should spend time every day meditating on death,” Talbot said. “Some communities actually recommend sitting in front of an open grave, thinking, I could be next.

“Meditating on death every day isn’t morbid. It’s supposed to inspire you to live every day like it’s your last.”

Mark Moring, a former editor at Christianity Today, helps homeless shelters, food banks, and other nonprofits with their fundraising.

News

Cliffe Knechtle Doesn’t Have All the Answers

He’s been engaging students’ faith questions for over 40 years. Thanks to TikTok, millions around the world are listening.

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Cliffe Knechtle speaks with college students at Mississipi State University in March 2024.

Christianity Today August 6, 2025
Photo Courtesy of Samuel Hughes / The Reflector

At Grace Community Church in New Canaan, Connecticut, friendly greeters chat with the regulars and newcomers who stream through the doors of the local high school where they meet.

A huddle of visitors also surrounds the senior pastor, listening to him hold court as he puts on his lapel microphone minutes before the service begins in the adjoining auditorium. This group drove over an hour, from the United States Military Academy in West Point, New York, to meet him.

Cliffe Knechtle, the 71-year-old pastor of a typical nondenominational congregation, also has a celebrity-level internet presence. He preaches to hundreds on Sundays, and millions have watched clips on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube of the open-air campus dialogues that have defined his four decades of ministry.

These social media videos show Knechtle debating hostile challengers or calmly coaching a seeker through a nagging doubt about the Christian faith.

“We’ve seen his videos, but I think the biggest thing for us was just to actually see him in person,” said Markel Johnson, one of the visiting cadets. “We were actually talking to him about coming, possibly, to West Point.”

Visitors like Johnson regularly show up at Grace, coming from as far away as Australia. But while Knechtle draws scores of TikTok pilgrims to New Canaan, he reaches exponentially more people on the internet.

Before his rather sudden takeoff on viral video platforms, Knechtle persevered through a long, relatively obscure slog from one college campus to the next, often with his wife, Sharon, and their three boys in tow. Though much has changed, he insists that one thing has not: Faithfulness, not virality, is the measure of a ministry’s and a minister’s success. 

At 26, Knechtle was frustrated. 

He had joined InterVarsity Christian Fellowship as a staff evangelist soon after graduating from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary in Massachusetts in 1979. With the goal of reaching skeptical students, he took trips to colleges, where he would visit dormitories to speak. 

Skeptics rarely showed up, though. It was mostly Christians who wanted to engage. Knechtle wasn’t sure how to change that, but Leighton Ford had an idea. 

A prolific and prestigious evangelist, Ford, 93, has been many things to many people. To Billy Graham, he was a mentee, ministry partner, and brother-in-law. To attendees at mass evangelism events around the world, he was a stirring preacher. And to Knechtle’s father, Emilio, he was a friend.  

Several years earlier, Emilio Knechtle had brought his son to meet Ford and his wife at their home in Charlotte, North Carolina. The Knechtles were visiting nearby Davidson College, where Cliffe would soon enroll. After he moved to campus, the Fords invited him for another visit. Before long, he was spending most weekends in their home. 

Ford became a spiritual father and mentor to Cliffe, so his words to the disheartened young minister held great weight. They were sitting together in Cliffe’s parents’ living room when Ford made a suggestion that would change Knechtle’s life. 

Cliffe Knechtle speaks to students outside HSS at the amphitheater.Photo Courtesy of Ericksen Gomez-Villeda / The Daily Beacon
Cliffe Knechtle speaks to a crowd of students at the University of Tennesee, Knoxville in November 2024.

Ford recounted that on a recent visit to the University of Arizona, he had noticed an open-air preacher delivering a “hellfire and brimstone” message. Students had quickly gathered around. What if Cliffe tried something similar but instead of condemning the listeners to hell, he presented “both the love and the truth of Christ”?

Knechtle remembers his gut reaction: “It’s a crazy idea, but because it’s Leighton Ford telling me, I think I’ll try it.”

He traveled to Fort Lauderdale, Florida, during spring break as part of a project with InterVarsity and started preaching on a crowded beach. Young vacationers hopped off their towels to listen.

“I jettisoned my outline and began to answer their questions, and that’s how we began the dialogue” Knechtle recalled. 

InterVarsity began sending Knechtle to colleges all over the country to hold open-air dialogues. Each visit lasted about a week, and the InterVarsity chapter or another Christian organization on campus cleared the gatherings with school officials.

Knechtle opened each session with a short introduction and then invited onlookers to ask questions. A Christianity Today article from 1981 records that he visited over 30 campuses in the first year of this new ministry, a pace he would maintain for the next decade. 

Those early years were exciting and challenging. Knechtle spoke to plenty of doubting and agnostic young people, many of whom were eager to stump him. Sometimes they did. When that happened, Knechtle began saying (with a slight pause after each word, ticking them off on his fingers for emphasis) what would become a catchphrase: “I. Do. Not. Know.”

“I had to give that answer a lot more often when I started open air than I do today,” Knechtle said. “But I still think even today, it’s one of the best answers I give.”

Knechtle said “I do not know” so often that he says the phrase became his eldest son Robert’s first words. This honesty and vulnerability differentiated Knechtle from the sort of preacher most students expected. Knechtle still drew plenty of hecklers, but many non-Christians appreciated his approach.

Paul Tokunaga saw this dynamic firsthand while a campus minister at Florida State University in the early ’80s. Students there were accustomed to seeing outdoor preachers “shouting and often berating people,” Tokunaga said. The InterVarsity chapter invited Knechtle, hoping he would engage with students constructively while still capturing their attention. 

Students would say, “Hmm, this guy’s a little different,” Tokunaga recalled. “He’s not calling us names, he’s listening to us, and some of what he says makes sense. I think I’ll stick around and see what he’s about.” 

During his first visit to Florida State, Knechtle asked some InterVarsity students to talk about how they came to faith. The next time, Tokunaga worked up his nerve and volunteered to share his story along with the students. To his surprise, Knechtle instead challenged Tokunaga to join him in preaching and answering questions. 

“I just had a heart attack,” Tokunaga remembered. He worried that he didn’t think quickly enough on his feet to give strong answers during a debate, and the thought of engaging with antagonistic hecklers was intimidating. All in all, it sounded like a good opportunity to get embarrassed. Still, Tokunaga decided to try.

Before going before a crowd, Tokunaga preached in his apartment to an audience of one: Knechtle, who offered tips and tried to simulate the environment they would encounter on campus. Later that week, it was time for the real thing. 

“So I went out there,” Tokunaga said. “Cliffe was kind of hanging back. … He was kind of my security blanket. And it went okay. People asked questions, and I think I answered most of them. I don’t know if the answers were any good or not, but I did my best.”

Despite his initial reservations, this experience became a springboard for Tokunaga. He continued to speak and served with InterVarsity for over 40 years, including as a vice president.

As the years rolled by, Knechtle continued his itinerant ministry and developed a following. He was invited to speak in connection with a Billy Graham crusade in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, in 1982 and the Urbana student missions conference in 1984. 

In 1986, InterVarsity Press published Knechtle’s first book, Give Me an Answer That Satisfies My Heart and My Mind: Answers to Your Toughest Questions About Christianity. Still conscious of negative stereotypes, he wrote in the introduction that he hoped the book would “give some degree of credibility and substance to my ministry since open-air preachers do not have the greatest reputations.”

Almost 40 years later, he’s not sure that the book had much of an impact on the way people perceived his work. Today, though, fans from social media bring copies to Knechtle’s events or church for him to autograph. 

Family dynamics eventually forced Knechtle to scale back his travel. His sons were getting older, and the family needed more stability. He accepted a position as an assistant pastor at a church near New Canaan. The open-air dialogues continued but at a reduced pace and eventually under a new ministry called Give Me An Answer.

In the early ’90s, the senior pastor at Knechtle’s church asked if he had ever considered using television to share the campus debates with a wider audience. Doubtful at first, Knechtle again ran the idea by Ford, who encouraged him to seek the counsel of Ben Haden, a Presbyterian pastor with a thriving television ministry. Haden gave advice on how to get started. 

Before long, a small camera crew was accompanying Knechtle on his trips to Austin, Texas, and East Lansing, Michigan, and other college towns in between. A producer edited the footage into half-hour episodes, which aired on local television in Connecticut and other markets. 

Old recordings of Knechtle from the ’90s show him in much the same form that students see on campuses today. He paces back and forth, answering students’ questions, often emphasizing his points with animated gestures or a well-timed pause. He entertains more enigmatic theological or moral questions, but his focus is on introducing people to his “closest friend, Jesus Christ.”  

Cliffe Knechtle chats with visitors after a worship service at Grace Community Church in New Canaan, CT on December 8, 2024.Photo by James Thompson
Cliffe Knechtle chats with visitors after a worship service at Grace Community Church in New Canaan, CT on December 8, 2024.

The first time I spoke to Cliffe, I had called his office hoping to schedule an interview. He picked up while I was leaving a message. We exchanged pleasantries for a few moments, and then I suggested we arrange a time for a longer conversation on Zoom.

A pause.

“I’m sorry, brother,” Cliffe said with a hint of embarrassment before explaining that he wasn’t sure he could use the video-conference platform without help. Would I mind just calling his landline instead?

This seems as good a time as any to mention that starting a social media ministry was not Cliffe’s idea. A couple Give Me An Answer board members encouraged Stuart Knechtle, Cliffe’s middle son, who joined the ministry in 2015, to try repurposing content from TV for newer platforms.

Stuart did not have accounts on TikTok or Instagram, and he was unconvinced that the open-air dialogues would find an audience there. Wasn’t TikTok for teenagers with selfie sticks?

“I thought it was silly,” Stuart told CT. Eventually, some contacts sent him studies on how other ministries had grown because of TikTok, and he thought, “All right, let’s give this thing a chance.”

He began posting reels on TikTok in 2020. They showed a few seconds of Cliffe talking or debating with someone on a campus, captioned with an attention-grabbing quote from their discussion.

Most of the videos fell flat, but occasionally one would gain traction—often clips of Cliffe debating broader cultural issues. Stuart used this insight to begin building a following. 

“I tried to have this balance of, okay, here’s where we’re really going to get incredible engagement,” Stuart recalled. “And it’s not overtly gospel. But now in the next post, I’m going to [use a clip focusing on] the gospel so that big audience that you just drew, that’s anti-Christian even, is going to hear the gospel.”

The ministry’s social media accounts grew over several years. They now have over 2 million followers on both TikTok and Instagram (both accounts are under Stuart’s name) and over 880,000 subscribers on YouTube.

Stuart remembers breaking a million followers on TikTok as a turning point. Fan accounts began remixing and reposting their content, making clips into memes or editing them with dramatic music in the background. This helped widen their reach even further.

When I interviewed Cliffe last year, there was still a bit of disbelief in his voice when he talked about the scope of the ministry’s internet presence. He referred to TikTok as a “godless, secular social media platform” but said that “to be able to present the gospel in that environment is just such a privilege.”

TikTok has changed the Knechtles’ reception on campus. Cliffe used to have to wait for crowds to form—once, at Rutgers University, he started preaching to his wife because no one was stopping to listen—and sometimes large gatherings turned against him, even spitting or throwing things at him. One of Stuart’s earliest memories is of Cliffe speaking to an especially antagonistic crowd at the University of California, Berkeley. 

Now, crowds gather before they arrive. On many campuses, especially at universities in the Bible Belt, the questions overwhelmingly come from Christians who have seen the duo online.

Cliffe said he’s grateful for the chance to speak to so many students, but there are challenges to this new reality too. All the positive attention creates an environment where it’s harder to have dialogues with non-Christians.

“If you have a [large group of] students out there and the vast majority of them are followers of Christ, it is not cool to step out and really lambaste me, and I miss that,” Cliffe said. “Those are the folks I want to talk to.” 

For viewers who have watched Cliffe having a fiery exchange with an agnostic undergrad and thought maybe he should dial it back a bit, so has he. On occasion, debates with students have devolved into shouting matches, and Cliffe admits that at times he’s gotten “too upset, too angry,” and “too intense.” He has felt the Holy Spirit convict him of this, in some cases directly after an exchange with a student, and apologized.  

“I’ve had to work hard on growing in patience, and that’s been very, very helpful for me to grow in that area,” he said. 

But he is also convinced that he should give the most robust apologetic of the gospel that he can, even when that means stepping on some toes.

This conviction grew stronger after a conversation years ago with Steve Brown, a Presbyterian minister and author. At an InterVarsity beach-evangelism project in Fort Lauderdale, Cliffe wondered aloud if sometimes it might be better to lose a debate with the long-term goal of not turning the person off from the gospel. Brown immediately rejected this idea.

“Steve looked at me and said, ‘Don’t you ever lose an argument,’” Cliffe remembered. “‘You make sure that you communicate the truth as clearly as you can.’”    

It’s a lesson that Cliffe has passed on to his son. Stuart, in addition to being an assistant pastor at Grace, is also a therapist. In his first open-air dialogue with Cliffe after joining his ministry, Stuart took a laid-back, clinical approach in their conversations with students.

Stuart Knechtle talks with students at Arizona State University in February 2025. Photo Courtesy of Give Me An Answer
Stuart Knechtle talks with students at Arizona State University in February 2025.

Stuart remembers feeling “a little bit defeated” at the end of the day, as not many people had stopped to talk with them and the exchanges they did have hadn’t seemed very productive. Afterward, Cliffe offered some encouragement—and then some feedback: Open-air evangelism is not the time for a “large-group counseling session.”

“I don’t think I’ve ever taken that approach again,” Stuart said. “I do a lot of one-on-one counseling, [but] that style and delivery doesn’t translate well. You still want to speak to the heart and love a person into the kingdom ultimately, but if your delivery and style is too PC, it’s just not going to be effective in that kind of environment.”

Clips from open-air debates are proliferating online, as many ministries and groups have recognized their power to attract viewers and engagement.

Sean McDowell, a professor of apologetics at Biola University and host of the Think Biblically podcast, said that people are drawn to the “inherent drama” of open-air dialogues, and that the format can often help a speaker reach a wider audience.

“Many people are invited to consider spiritual things who might not be on an active search,” McDowell said. “The downside is that many presenters are not able to engage as effectively as Cliffe and often come across as either angry or uninformed. Done well and wisely, I don’t think there’s any considerable downsides of having it as one important element of evangelism. It is one effective way to evangelize. And Cliffe and Stuart are the best.”

The explosion of their digital ministry has netted Cliffe and Stuart invitations to appear in new venues, including some where evangelical pastors are not usually invited. In May 2024, they were on influencer Logan Paul’s Impaulsive podcast.

Paul’s show can be crass and would never be mistaken for a Focus on the Family program. For two-and-a-half hours, though, Paul and cohost Mike Majlak peppered the Knechtles with tough but friendly questions about their faith. The episode has 4.2 million views. 

They received “a little bit of blowback” online, Cliffe said, from Christians who were concerned about them appearing with a controversial figure like Paul, but Cliffe believes most people understand why they want to be in “places where people desperately need the gospel.” 

Much like on a college campus, his goal in settings like Paul’s podcast is “to listen to people, understand where they are, and then help them take the next step closer to Christ.”

There have been invitations to appear in more political spaces as well. Over the years, Cliffe has eschewed wading into that arena directly and often parries political questions with a line about how America is great when it follows Christ and ugly when it does not. He encourages Christians to vote and participate in politics but doesn’t publicly advocate for specific politicians or parties.

In December, he told CT that this approach reflects the priority of his ministry.

“I feel called to build bridges with people who don’t believe in Christ,” he said. “I do not want to unnecessarily alienate anybody. The cross of Christ is offensive enough as it is; the word sin is offensive enough as it is, as is judgment and hell. And we don’t back off from any of that.

“We also don’t back off from the ethical lessons that the Bible teaches us, and those are highly offensive as well. So I do not want to add the political differences to the conversation. Instead, I teach people to read the Bible, apply it to their lives, [and] think through all the different issues.” 

To be sure, he doesn’t hesitate to articulate clear positions on hot-button topics like abortion and sexuality. Yet despite his aversion to supporting specific political parties or candidates, Cliffe has appeared at events hosted by Charlie Kirk, the conservative political activist and MAGA insider.

In some ways, this collaboration makes sense: Kirk is an evangelical Christian, and faith has seemed to take a more prominent role in his work in the past few years. Like Cliffe, he visits college campuses to take questions from students, and clips from these events rack up millions of views on social media.

But the two men offer different takes on how faith and politics should intersect. In conversations with college students, Cliffe is sometimes at pains to convey that following Jesus is not synonymous with a particular political party or persuasion. Kirk puts forward a starkly different view: that a true born-again Christian cannot vote for a Democrat.

Kirk has also pushed American pastors to directly endorse conservative candidates and has said that congregants should leave their churches if their pastors resist becoming explicitly political.

Cliffe noted that he and Stuart appeared with Kirk at a “Believer’s Summit,” not an event directly focused on politics. They have since joined him for another, similar gathering in February. Both events were organized by TPUSA Faith, a church-focused initiative of Kirk’s organization, Turning Point USA. 

“If someone on the other side of the political aisle would invite me to [talk about faith], I would welcome that opportunity and would jump at it immediately,” Knechtle said. “But it was only Charlie Kirk that so far invited us. So I accepted, and we had a great time there.”

The young evangelicals who fill Liberty University’s Vines Center for Convocation gatherings usually give guest speakers a nice round of applause as they take the stage.

This past November, they stood for Cliffe. The ovation lasted almost 30 seconds. When it finally died down, several students in the audience called out at him, like lifelong fans finally seeing their favorite musician in concert. 

He replied with a shy grin, a wave, and a thumbs-up, then launched into his talk: “How do you share your faith? How do you communicate Jesus Christ to people living in the secular culture that we live in today? Three points this morning …”

Why does Cliffe have such a passionate following among young, social media–savvy evangelicals? Getting him to reflect on his “success” or “influence” is a bit difficult, as he seems to automatically deflect recognition toward others: God, for giving his ministry opportunities to reach people in new ways; Stuart, for starting and managing their social media accounts; his church, for being so supportive. From his perspective, he’s just kept plodding in the same direction.

“I got a great compliment last week,” he said, chatting with me in the basement of his Connecticut home while his family gathered upstairs. “A guy said, ‘I’ve watched your old stuff. I listen to you today. You’re the same.’ So the point is, faithfulness is the barometer of success. The message does not change.”

Cliffe sees the process of a person deciding to put their faith in Christ as a “chain with many links.” The open-air conversations, he said, are often a first or middle link rather than the final one.

Through his many, many years of pre-TikTok ministry, he often didn’t get to see much visible fruit from his work (although sometimes he did). Now, hundreds of responses to their social media posts attest to how content from Give Me An Answer has helped many trust in Christ for the first time.

He mentioned the importance of faithfulness several times during our conversation, and I asked if this focus on remaining faithful to his calling is what kept him motivated during more discouraging times in his career.     

“Yes, but that’s no different than today,” he said with sudden intensity. “Now I just have to figure out how I can put the best schedule together to get to the most non-Christians, and that’s exactly what I was asking 44 years ago and 20 years ago. So it really hasn’t changed that much.”

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Can Anything Good Come of Modern-Day Nazareth?

Local corruption, criminal gangs, and the Israel-Hamas war have left Jesus’ hometown struggling.

A man stands near the altar at the Roman Catholic Basilica of the Annunciation in Nazareth in northern Israel.

A man stands near the altar at the Roman Catholic Basilica of the Annunciation in Nazareth.

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Step into the streets of Nazareth, the famed hometown of Jesus, and the smell of garbage overwhelms the senses. Along the streets, trash is piled high on every corner; the city government can no longer pay for trash trucks. Souvenir shops selling cross necklaces and wooden carvings of the Nativity are closed, and the streets of Nazareth’s Old City empty as the Israel-Hamas war has stopped the flow of Christian tourists to the city.

In the past, Christian residents used to use the motto “Come and See” to entice outsiders to visit the city, based on Philip’s answer to his brother Nathanael when the latter asked “Nazareth! Can anything good come from there?” in John 1:46.

Today, many are reluctant for others to see the city in its current state.

The city’s economy has tanked as the war has devastated its tourism industry. Criminal gangs are running rampant in the city, and the municipal government is facing a severe deficit.

The increase in crime the past several years has led droves of residents, many of them Christians, to move to the adjacent Jewish town of Nof HaGalil (previously called “Nazareth Illit”), which receives generous government support. (Predominantly Arab cities like Nazareth have lower standards of living and receive less government funding than predominantly Jewish cities.) Others are moving to Haifa, which has a mixed Arab and Jewish population with a substantial number of Christians.

“People in Nazareth are weary psychologically from the pressures,” said Azar Ajaj, president of Nazareth Evangelical College and pastor of The Local Baptist Church. Christian groups are also facing high taxes. Yet Ajaj and the remaining Christians in Nazareth feel called to continue ministering and seeking revival in the city Jesus once called home.

Located in northern Israel, Nazareth is the largest Arab city in Israel as well as the most Christian city in the country, as a fourth of its 80,800 residents are Christians. For decades, Nazareth was considered the capital of the Arabs in Israel, with thriving markets, a good school system, several Christian hospitals, and famous attractions for Holy Land tours. Hundreds of thousands of Christian tourists visit the Annunciation Roman Catholic Basilica, which has ruins of (presumably) the house of the holy family; Synagogue Church, where Jesus is believed to have read from Isaiah as recorded in Luke 4; and Nazareth Village, a replica of the city as it would have been in the first century.

Yet in recent years, crime within the Arab community has been on the rise, claiming the lives of more than 150 people so far this year. This includes gang wars as well as gang members shooting owners of local businesses who refuse to pay protection money. Research by the Taub Center found that the murder rate in the Arab Israeli community is the third highest in the developing world.

Meanwhile, only about 11 percent of criminal cases are resolved by the police.

Many blame Israel’s far-right minister of national security, Itamar Ben-Gvir, for not putting an end to the widespread violence among Arabs in Israel. Ben-Gvir has in the past made anti-Arab comments, including saying in 2023 that his right to life outweighs Palestinians’ right to travel freely in  the West Bank.

Nizar Touma, pastor of the Nazarene Church in Nazareth, noted that one of his congregants who worked as a construction contractor moved away after a criminal gang asked him to pay protection money or they would damage his equipment. The man and his family are seeking to move to the US. They are the second family to leave in the past year, a significant loss to a church of 150.

Meanwhile, since Mayor Ali Sallam came into office in 2014, the city’s deficit has grown to 300 million shekels ($88 million USD) due to mismanagement, corruption, and misconduct, according to Sharif Zoabi, head of the opposition leader in the city council. He said that many departments lacked managers and the city kept hundreds of people on its payroll even though they sat at home or worked elsewhere.

Without funds, paychecks to the city’s employees, including trash truck drivers and security guards, stopped in February, so for months trash piled up on the sides of roads. Residents either rented private trucks to transport waste or burned their trash in their backyards.

As a result, Israel’s minster of interior dismissed the elected mayor of Nazareth, dismantled the city council in June, and appointed a committee of government officials headed by Yaakov Efrati, a retired Jewish official who had served as the  general director of the Jerusalem municipality.

In order to fill the city’s empty coffers, the committee demanded that city residents, businesses, and even Christian hospitals and schools pay high taxes. Previously, religious organizations were tax exempt. One school said it had to pay around $250,000 annually, while a Christian hospital said its taxes, which include retroactive payments for the last seven years, total in the millions. The taxes would jeopardize the institution’s existence. Also, several Catholic schools took the committee to court.

“Nazareth municipality’s recent attempt to impose municipal taxes on long-exempt Christian schools is a matter of grave concern,” Farid Jubran, the general director of the Secretariate of Christian Schools in Israel, told CT. “This move undermines the very foundation of Christian education in the city. These schools are not only legally exempt; they are vital to Nazareth’s identity and future, serving thousands of students across communities.”

Touma even received a notice that his church had to pay taxes. When he reached out to the accountant of the municipal committee, the accountant asked Touma to provide evidence that his church was a place of worship, despite the fact that the church had existed for more than a century.

In addition, because Nazareth is in northern Israel, it was a target for missiles last September and October when fighting between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon intensified. Then in mid-June, as Israel attacked Iran, Nazareth residents again feared retaliation, running to shelters and safe rooms at the sound of alarms.

“Hearing air raid sirens, the booming sounds of explosions, and realizing you have no control over the situation made me feel a kind of fear,” Ajaj said. “But this very fear drove me to rely on God in faith, remembering that God is above all and that not a single hair from our heads falls without his permission.”

The war has led more and more Nazarenes to move abroad, with Greece and Cyprus being population destinations. A recent Arab Christian transplant to Cyprus told Haaretz that nearly 800 other families have moved to the country, where they have made new lives for themselves running vacation rentals, forming construction firms, establishing factories, or starting restaurants.

Yet the Christians remaining in Nazareth continue to serve. Ajaj noted that since the  beginning of the war, his college’s classes have moved completely online. Students from all over Israel and the world are now joining the lectures. “We will hear sirens, and students will leave their screens and rush with their families to safe rooms,” Ajaj noted.

“A lot of our students are pastors themselves who were overloaded with pastoral responsibilities with their congregants, and our lecturers’ jobs converted to be [to giving]encouragement to these students/pastors,” he added.

Touma says that, while pastoring amid wartime is difficult, he sees sharing the hope of Jesus to his hometown as a pressing obligation. He encourages church members to stay in Nazareth and keep walking in the faith through visiting church members and local residents as well as handing out food coupons to the needy.

“I have learned how to sit at the Master’s feet and receive comfort and strength to carry on,” Touma said. “[I’m] hoping that I can get others to do the same.”

The women’s ministry in Ajaj’s church held a prayer meeting for all the Christian women in the city on Annunciation Day, March 25, which is known locally as Nazareth Day. They focused on Jeremiah 29:7: “Seek the peace and prosperity of the city to which I have carried you into exile. Pray to the Lord for it, because if it prospers, you too will prosper.”

Cautious optimism is in the air with the new committee running the municipality.

“I believe that in his timing, the Lord will bring restoration and a revival in his hometown through dedicated men and women from all ages who love Jesus; are well trained; and have a vision for evangelism, bridge building, and expanding the kingdom,” Ajaj said.

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