INTERVIEW
Franklin Graham: What's the Fuss About?
The evangelist who once prayed at an inauguration offers his take of Obama-Warren inauguration controversy.
Interview by Sarah Pulliam | posted 12/23/2008 03:35PM
President-elect Barack Obama chose California megachurch pastor Rick Warren to give the invocation at the January 20 inauguration, igniting fury from same-sex marriage advocates and progressives.
Obama and Warren both defended their decisions to reach across the aisle, even though the future president and megachurch pastor. Evangelist Franklin Graham was in the hot seat once after he prayed in Jesus' name at President Bush's inauguration in 2001. He spoke with Christianity Today about his reaction to Obama's decision and his advice for Warren.
Were you surprised that Obama chose Rick Warren to give the invocation at his inauguration?
No, not at all. Rick Warren had invited President-elect Obama two years ago to his AIDS forum, and, of course, he held the unofficial debate at his church with Obama and Sen. McCain. Rick demonstrated to Obama that he's a friend, but at the same time, he's not going to change his convictions. I think he's a natural and many people will appreciate Rick Warren being there. I think he's a great choice. He's a Southern Baptist. He believes the Bible the way I believe it.
Rick Warren seems to be taking criticism from both sides, from same-sex marriage advocates and from evangelicals who say he should not pray at Obama's inauguration. You filled this role at President Bush's inauguration in 2001, and your father has also played this role. Did you face the same challenges?
President Bush was sued because I prayed in the name of Jesus. Eventually that suit was thrown out. But any time you take a stand for Christ, it's going to be controversial. Rick Warren is a man of God. He is a preacher of the gospel of Jesus Christ. The people on the far left hate God, they hate his standards, and hate the name of his son. The people on the left are not going to support any relationship with people on the other side. Barack Obama has shown he's going to reach across these boundaries. He is including evangelicals at his inauguration, but I don't know if he'll include them in his administration. Time will tell. But Rick Warren will have Obama's ear on important issues.
Does Warren's acceptance of the invitation give an implicit nod to Obama's administration?
I don't agree with everything that George Bush has done. I don't agree with everything he believes. When I accepted the invitation, it didn't mean I agreed with President Bush. I was there to talk to God, to lead the nation in a prayer for our president. We're called in Scripture to pray for those in leadership. For anybody to be upset at Rick Warren for offering a prayer to almighty God, asking God to give wisdom and guidance to the Obama administration, is ludicrous.
The criticism directed at Warren has been targeted at his stance against same-sex marriage. Should evangelicals take such a public stance against it?
It is scriptural. Rick Warren or Franklin Graham or any other preacher of the gospel has no choice but to warn people of what God says. Any type of sexual relations outside of marriage between a man and a woman is a sin against God. It's very serious. God is going to judge sin, and Rick Warren is taking a stand against gay marriage. He was absolutely right, because that's God's position.
I just know what Rick Warren believes, that homosexuality is a sin, and it's a sin against God. God forgives sin. For God to forgive sin, the sinner has to repent and turn from their sin, acknowledge Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, and follow him in obedience. A person can't say, "I'm going to follow Jesus and sin"; he can't do that. God will forgive a homosexual and all of us as sinners. Franklin Graham is a sinner, but I've asked God for forgiveness, and I've turned away from it. When I do sin, I have to ask God for forgiveness and that he will cleanse me.