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February 11, 2012

Home > 2008 > May (Web-only)Christianity Today, May (Web-only), 2008
Emergent's New Christians and the Young, Restless Reformed
Tony Jones and Collin Hansen find connections as they discuss each other's books and movements.




Tony Jones is the national coordinator of Emergent Village and author of The New Christians: Dispatches from the Emergent Frontier. Collin Hansen is editor-at-large of Christianity Today and author of Young, Restless, Reformed: A Journalist's Journey with the New Calvinists. Both books take a sympathetic journalistic approach to a young but growing movement in American Christianity, examining why it's growing and how it's changing the larger church.

Day 1 | Day 2 | Day 3 | Day 4

Tony,

Your note reminds me of a question John Piper fielded at the 2007 Passion conference. One student stood up in a Q+A forum and asked, "How do you stay so humble?" Piper immediately responded, "How do you know I'm humble?" This is clearly something he fights, as do all Christians. Humility is not something that comes naturally to the celebrity-crazed evangelical world. It's especially unhelpful when we treat our leaders as if they are inerrant and ask them to sign our Bibles. We should pray for our leaders and consider what we do that tempts them to pride.

I think if anyone has rubbed off on the older Reformed guys, it's one of the older guys himself: C. J. Mahaney. Check out the endorsements from some of his friends for his book Humility: True Greatness. In this book Mahaney, the founding pastor of Covenant Life Church in Maryland, helpfully defines humility this way: "Humility is honestly assessing ourselves in light of God's holiness and our sinfulness."

The Bible does address epistemological humility, as in the oft-quoted 1 Corinthians 13:12 passage. But I think it's crucial to see that verse in light of that chapter's focus on love. Humility is often measured by how we love one another, our willingness to serve our neighbors. We can't help but think of the most humble act of human history, Jesus humbling "himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross" (Phil. 2:8).

This emphasis on loving one another in community is something I appreciate about the Emergent churches you describe. This was one of my favorite lines you wrote: "The church should be a place where individuals who struggle with self-centeredness get reminded that our calling is to be God-centered and other-centered." That sounds like the reasons I heard for why young evangelicals join Reformed churches.

Maybe that line is why I was surprised by your dispatch 17: "Emergents start new churches to save their own faith, not necessarily as an outreach strategy." In fact, I didn't see much in your book about any outreach strategies. Is that because of how you counsel your friend, to trust more in the Holy Spirit than in marketing (page 201)? If so, you have a lot of Reformed friends who don't love Charles Finney's lingering influence on the American church. How do Emergent churches practice evangelism?

— Collin

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Collin,

I appreciated reading about Mahaney in your book. I knew nothing about him before, but he seems like my kind of guy — a real straight shooter. And I appreciate that the young Reformed folks consider their older leaders to be humble, but that doesn't always come across in the clips I see and the books I read. They may be humble in the face of the sovereign God, but they don't seem to preach with much epistemic humility. That's why I was wondering if the grace of the younger generation is trickling up.

Yours is a good question about dispatch 17. In writing that, I was simply trying to be honest. While some churches — both church plants and existing churches — have used emergent-type elements in their worship and marketing in an attempt to attract young adults, the churches that I have studied and visited do not think of their patterns of life together as an outreach strategy. Instead, the Emergent ethos grows out of (1) a dissatisfaction with church-as-usual, and (2) a desire to create something new and beautiful.





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Displaying 1–5 of 6 comments

Russ

May 14, 2008  5:41pm

I come from an anti-creedal tradition that emerged from the Reformed, mainly Presbyterian, churches about 200 years ago. So, we've been working out the consequences of extending the priesthood of all believers to include the right of private judgment in study of the Scriptures for some time, now. On one side, exerting the right of private judgment has seen some undermine the authority of Scripture, denial of the Trinity, denial of miracle including the deity of Christ, and so on. On the other side, exercising private judgment has seen some take, for example, the Reformed regulative principle to the nth degree: not only no musical instruments in worship, but one cup at communion, no Sunday school classes or church kitchens, no parachurch org's, et al. That said, it has also led to a thicker understanding of baptism and the Lord's Supper, as well as the ministry of the priesthood of all believers.

Dan Stringer

May 12, 2008  5:15pm

This dialogue is much needed because Calvinists are still elevating the spiritual to the detriment of the social, while Emergents seem to have forgotten how Walther Rauschenbusch's 'social gospel' played a significant role in the decline of America's mainline denominations. My hope and prayer is that Emergents will begin to include Reformed voices in their "conversation" while the New Calvinists will begin to explore the Kingdom of God as a crucial part of, not a separate category from, the Gospel they defend so fiercely. If we are going to be messengers of something as revolutionary and counter-cultural as the Kingdom of God, we must first recognize that we belong, body and soul, to Jesus. Whether we are preaching the word, feeding the hungry or loving our enemies, we all could use a healthy dose of humility and reverence for the Creator as the One for whose glory this is all for. I've offered more reflections on "Emergent Calvinism" at http://thecommonloon.blogspot.com/

coffee

May 10, 2008  1:49pm

I am neither Emergent nor Reformed. I am a Nazarene pastor and love to preach and teach God's Word through the Arminian/Wesleyan tradition. Why was this discussion limited to Calvinists' response to Emergent?

Craig Johnson

May 08, 2008  3:56pm

Collin, I appreciate your opening comment on Day 4 about humility. I have seen so many guys (pastors) who stand in line to meet a well known man, have him sign their book or bible, or race to sit up close or behind the speakers at Shepherds Conference. I am not sure why. Yes, these are great men, and I often don't know what to say to them when I am in their presence, but they still spill ketchup on their pants just like me. Don't make their life more difficult by putting them on a pedestal. Pray for them, encourage them, thank them, but know that you are a forgiven sinner just like them. By the way, Collin, I saw you at Band of Bloggers but didn't get to meet you. Would you sign my laptop?:)

Greg Chase

May 08, 2008  3:16pm

Every generation puts its own spin on the church based on changing culture. The big problem that must be avoided is syncritism. Do we reflect Christ in a meaningful way to our culture today or are we muddling up His message in a culture moving ever further from His Truth? "Emergents" and New Reformed" are just words, the real need is for Christians today is to have a vital relationship with Jesus whatever the label may be.

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