What if anxiety, a feeling we often dread, could actually be an opportunity for spiritual growth? In this fascinating conversation with Curtis Chang— executive director of Redeeming Babel, consulting professor at Duke Divinity School, and senior fellow at Fuller Theological Seminary—we discuss his new book, The Anxiety Opportunity, and explore how to approach anxiety from a Christian perspective.

Together, we dive into the relationship between Christianity and coping with loss in times of anxiety. Curtis reveals how anxiety can be viewed as a signal that loss is ahead and how this can open the door to restoration and growth with God's help. He also talks about the wrong ways anxiety is viewed in some Christian circles and how evidence-based therapies and medications can help moderate anxiety's most crippling effects while fostering spiritual development.

Finally, we discuss the importance of moving towards others in dealing with anxiety and how bringing the conversation into community can be transformative.

Curtis Chang is a public theologian and consulting faculty member of Duke Divinity School and a Senior Fellow at Fuller Theological Seminary. Curtis has written for the New York Times and Christianity Today and has appeared on CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, PBS, and NPR’s All Things Considered. Curtis is also the cohost of Good Faith, a podcast with New York Times columnist David French. His ministry, speaking, and writing are fueled by a passion to help Christians recognize the surprising authority and relevance of Jesus for parts of life that are often left to the secular world.


Curtis’ book—The Anxiety Opportunity: How Worry is the Doorway to Your Best Self

Previous episode—Grounded in Grace: A Christian Technique for Relieving Stress and Strengthening Faith

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