The Calling

One church leader, one calling, one honest conversation. An interview show about the nature of church leadership, the inherent struggles that come with that calling, and the many different ways God has shaped individuals to work within his church.

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John Perkins On The Day He Finally Understood The Bible
Episode 67 |54min
John Perkins On The Day He Finally Understood The Bible
How a textual discovery led to a life-long call to vindicate the poor, his community, and his own family name.
Justin Giboney Is Bringing Christian Hope To Politics
Episode 66 |39min
Justin Giboney Is Bringing Christian Hope To Politics
By walking on both sides of party lines, the political strategist is paving a way for Christians in politics.
Keith Getty Is Still Fighting the Worship Wars
Episode 65 |55min
Keith Getty Is Still Fighting the Worship Wars
How the writer of "In Christ Alone" found an adversary in Wall Street.
Where Is God When My Spouse Is Incarcerated?
Episode 64 |47min
Where Is God When My Spouse Is Incarcerated?
Raising kids, maintaining a marriage, and leaning into those awkward conversations at church.
How Billy Graham Built Christianity Today
Episode 63 |42min
How Billy Graham Built Christianity Today
CT's former president, Harold Myra, on the time he was grilled by Billy Graham, and what he learned from working with him.
Dhati Lewis Is a Discipleship Nerd
Episode 62 |51min
Dhati Lewis Is a Discipleship Nerd
The Atlanta pastor won't rest until all 281 members of his church are being discipled.
Jenny Yang Is Bringing Humanity to the Political Discussion
Episode 61 |27min
Jenny Yang Is Bringing Humanity to the Political Discussion
World Relief's vice president of advocacy and policy wants political issues to hit closer to home.
Michael Wear’s Uneasy Call to Politics
Episode 60 |43min
Michael Wear’s Uneasy Call to Politics
Obama's former director of faith outreach left the White House frustrated but hopeful.
For Andrew Peterson, Creating Art Means Facing His Fear of Being Known
Episode 59 |38min
For Andrew Peterson, Creating Art Means Facing His Fear of Being Known
The singer-songwriter and author reflects on a long career of finding holy hope in the face of self-doubt.
Amena Brown: Art Doesn’t Need to Be ‘Churchy’ to Be Sacred
Episode 58 |45min
Amena Brown: Art Doesn’t Need to Be ‘Churchy’ to Be Sacred
For the Atlanta-based spoken word poet, God shines best through art that feels human.

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Paradise Fire Burned Most Church Buildings, But ‘the Church Is Still Alive’
Paradise Fire Burned Most Church Buildings, But ‘the Church Is Still Alive’
California pastor opens up about the most difficult sermon of his career—and the prospects for resurrecting ministry from the ashes.
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