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May 26, 2012

Home > 2012 > February (Web-Only)Christianity Today, February (Web-Only), 2012
Mars Hill Says It Released Leaders Over Church Discipline Cases
Two "had a pattern of overstepping their authority," church says.




Note: This article has been updated since its original posting to reflect Mars Hill's new statement that two of its leaders were removed as a result of cases unrelated to the two that drew recent media attention.

While affirming its commitment to "bringing correction in grace when members are living contrary to the Scriptures in a way that is unhealthy," Mars Hill Church leaders in a blog post said that "things did not go as they should have" in recent church discipline cases. Two church leaders overstepped their authority, the church said, and now those leaders have themselves been disciplined and removed from ministry.

The announcement comes as the church has come under media scrutiny for church discipline cases.

Over the last month, several blogs have discussed the case of Andrew, a member of Mars Hill Church's Ballard, Washington, campus. Andrew (his last name has been omitted from all accounts) told Matthew Paul Turner's eponymous blog that he had cheated on his fiancée and told his community group about it (as well as about the physical nature of his relationship with his fiancée). That led to a series of church discipline meetings and, eventually, Andrew said, he was asked to sign a contract promising that he would not "pursue or date any woman," would "not be involved in serving" in the church and would write a detailed sexual history. When he said that he would instead leave the church, the pastor overseeing the discipline posted a letter to the community group's social networking site announcing that he was being excommunicated. "Associate with Andrew only for the purpose of admonishment and restoration," the letter said. "Refrain from associating with Andrew in social setting such as: eating a meal, attending a concert or movie together."

As Andrew's story gained attention on Christian blogs, it gained local and national media attention. The Stranger, a Seattle alt-weekly, summarized Andrew's story and told the story of Lance (a pseudonym), whose pastor at Mars Hill demanded he end a long-distance relationship even though it had not been physical. The online publication Slate weighed in with a reported essay by writer Ruth Graham (not the famous evangelist's daughter). Mars Hill's "harsh tactics raise questions about how much control churches should have over their members' lives," Graham said. But she added, "Moral development, as old-fashioned as that term may sound, can be a beautiful, transformative part of the work of the church. … The question that Mars Hill members must confront is whether the atmosphere at their church is one of respect or shame."

Graham's story included some response from Justin Dean, PR and marketing manager for Mars Hill. This week, Mars Hill leaders posted a lengthier response on the church's website. In part, it reiterated some of the points Dean made to Slate: The excommunication letter was to be read aloud to the community group members, not posted on the community group's restricted-access social networking site. The church also reiterated that "Our central leadership, which includes Pastor Mark Driscoll, is not involved in the discipline process, as it is handled at a local level."

But there's a significant difference between the comments to Slate and this week's blog post: "Dean says that the church would welcome reconciliation with Andrew, but Mars Hill is not backing down from its strict definition of repentance," Graham wrote. "The unspoken implication seems to be that Mars Hill itself has done nothing it needs to repent from."





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Displaying 1–5 of 7 comments

STEPHEN CHACE(Registered User)

February 29, 2012  9:36pm

Like R Widmer, i see many disturbing things. The church has a PR person to isolate the pastor? The head pastor is not involved in discipline cases, it's "handled locally"? What if a "local" leader dislikes the accused, maybe feels threatened by them, decides to make an example of them? Been there. Done that. Would not want to be that leader on Judgment Day.

Robyn Widmer(Registered User)

February 27, 2012  12:36pm

"Andrew" repented. He was then excommunicated after leaving the congregation. The leadership instructed all members to shun him. Signs of a cult.

Tom Howard(Registered User)

February 27, 2012  7:30am

So much unknown ....but this and several other swirling issues in the church, in my mind, seem to forget that God through Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the ONLY transforming powers in our life....and the church is to provide forgiveness and grace to allow and enable transformation. Most of the church powers somehow leave the feeling that it is there bounden duty to "beat us into submission and transformation"....I seem to disconnect there.

Eric Rasmusen(Registered User)

February 26, 2012  8:17pm

"The church also said that church discipline is rare at Mars Hill: "Out of 5,417 members, we currently have nine church discipline cases in process, which represents 0.17% of our members."" What a very holy bunch of people they are! I wonder if firing church leaders who try to discipline their flock is what accounts for the apparent rarity of sin in Mars Hill Church?

MATTHEW PITRUCHA(Registered User)

February 25, 2012  3:10pm

In the article it was said, "It was determined that the leaders involved had a pattern of overstepping their authority." And, "The two leaders who we identified in the blog were removed because of overstepping their authority in cases unrelated to the Andrew and Lance cases. Our goal in mentioning them was to say that we protect our people and not our leaders." I must ask, are leaders not your people? Don't you also love and care for your leaders? Aren't the leaders also members who may also need discipline? Were the leaders given a chance to repent? If not, then why release them from their leadership position if they were not chastised and given the opportunity to repent?

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