Karl Vaters: perhaps a young person in your family.
Craig Forrest: Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Could even be a 13 year old. It could be a 10 year old. If you want to get ideas, look at YouTube, look on Facebook, look at something that you really like and say, “you know what? I want to shoot something like that,” whatever that is, as long as it's done with inspiration.
If you want to go beyond that and to something deeper, like short films and music performances, it could well be you have a community college or a high school or a small college near you that has a video or media department. And why not go talk to one of the professors and say, “who's pretty good in this class? I'd like to give them some pocket change to come shoot a video on Tuesday or on a Saturday when they have a day off. And here's what I want to do in a day and they can edit it and I have coffee money, Starbucks money, the textbook money for them to do it.”
And I almost guarantee you, if the professor points you to somebody that's probably sharp, you're going to come away with something that didn't cost you very much that gets the job. And you didn't have to go spend thousands upon thousands of dollars. That's if you want to go to the next level, I always say start small and make your mistakes on the small stuff.
Karl Vaters: Okay. So, because what you're talking about is absolutely reasonable. We've done that at our congregation. I know there are some small church pastors who are listening, who are going, “I’m way out in the boonies. I got nobody around me or I've tried and it's failed,” whatever. There's a lot of different reasons for that. So as you said, that's the next step.
Let's start with the phone that's already in our pockets. Let's start with the negative. What are some of the biggest mistakes you see small churches—churches of any size, but particularly small churches often because of limited access to material . . . Here's the bottom line: in a large church, you've got enough people and you can have a large tech team. And so the pastor decides, “Hey, I want to shoot the service in this way,” or “I want to put out a message on Facebook.” And you call the tech team and they come through and you just stand in front of them and they do it and then they put it up.