Tom Harris: Intentional disciple-making building into an individual or small group like Jesus did, and then teaching them to do the same.
Karl Vaters: Hi, I'm Karl Vaters and I'm a small church pastor. And welcome to Can This Work in a Small Church? My guest today is TH and the subject is intentional, interim pastors. Tom is the co-author of Soaring Between Pastors: Eight Actions to Thrive During a Pastoral Transition. He also serves as the president of IPM, Interim Pastor Ministries.
In this conversation, Tom and I talk about the importance of interim pastorates and how an intentional interim can help prepare a church to hit the ground running when they call a new pastor. And don't forget to stick around when the interview is done. I'll come back with an overview of the content and an answer to the question "can this work in a small church?"
Before we get to the interview, one quick thing. In October, 2021, we're holding our first ever support drive. Listen for more information about it at the break in the middle of the podcast, and now let's get to the content and an answer to the question "can this work in a small church?"
Well, Tom, welcome to Can This Work in a Small Church? I sure appreciate your being with us today. You and I have had several conversations over the last couple of months about the ministry that you're involved with. And then I received your book Soaring Between Pastors: Eight Actions to Thrive During a Pastoral Transition. I read through it and there's so much good stuff in this that I wanted to have a conversation with you.
The first thing I really want to do about this is I don't want to ask, how did you become interested in this idea of intentional interim pastoring? Because it takes a lot of passion to actually write an entire book on the subject and not just a book, but to really come up with an entire process to help churches through interim. How did you become interested in the subject?
TH: I was an interim pastor when I was in college every weekend. I went to enough hours to primarily preach. But even before that in high school, my pastor that discipled me left when I was 16 and an interim pastor came and played a vital role in my continuation of my discipleship. And that was invaluable by that interim.
When I was about 40, I was in between churches, I'm a never married, single, so I have a uniqueness that travel is no problem for me. And I was just thinking in praying and the thought came to me that I would really enjoy a career in intentional interim ministry.