Karl Vaters: Josh, welcome to the podcast. It's good to have you here, my friend.
Josh Givens: Hey Karl, it's great to be here. Thanks for having me on.
Karl Vaters: Thank you. Yeah, you and your dad Stan, we've been connecting a lot more lately. You were part of a conference this past summer that I got to be at, and I got to see not just the work that you do with other pastors but the work you’re doing at your church and in the home, and there’s some great stuff going on. Josh is the Communications director for North Side Bible church. You guys are doing a lot of work with small church pastors. One of the things that caught my eye…you put out a blog post… you asked and answered a question I get in directly asked a lot. It’s about Facebook… Often I’ll hear small church pastors say something like, Well, we’re on Facebook so we’re good. You need a website. And then you went right into it, so let me just ask you: What is your… If so, why?
Josh Givens: Right. Well, there's so many reasons that you can get into this. I would say right out of the gate first of all, and one of the biggest reasons, especially right now with the way Facebook is and the way that they kind of started directing their platform and everything is I just always tell pastors of no matter what size church they are, You're not the boss of the content on Facebook; Facebook is the boss of the content. And they look at me and they kind of go, Well, what do you mean by that? And I'm like, You're not in control of what you put out there. And I don't know…And this has actually kind of come up even more recently with the pandemic and the COVID thing and all of that.
If you post something and even just say, Due to COVID-19 or an outbreak of such and such, we will be canceling services tonight and we will re-meet Wednesday at 6:00 pm, hope you guys all have a great week, Facebook will flag that because it has the words COVID-19 in it. And there'll be a little message at the bottom that says - and we all know this, we all encountered this when we started posting on Facebook during the COVID pandemic - and it will say for more information about the COVID-19, blah, blah, blah, and information from the CDC, please click the following link. And that's right under your church's post. And there's no way for you to avoid that. There's nothing you can do about that. It's going to be all up and down your Facebook page anytime you use certain words. On your website, you are the boss of your own content and you can word anything however you want, and nobody's going to interfere with it because it's your territory.