Can This Work In A Small Church?
Episode 023, 1 hr 5 minJanuary 26, 2022
Karl and Dr. Gil address issues of concern to pastors, and provide a dialogue on how to approach varied sex/gender concerns in congregants and beyond.
Episode 022, 58 minJanuary 12, 2022
In this interview with Jeff Hamilton, of Dad Academy, we talk about helping men become the dad they want to be.
Episode 21, 44 minDecember 15, 2021
Episode 020, 49 minDecember 01, 2021
Karl interviews Jason Moore on the subject of how to blend online & in-person worship. Jason is the founder of the Both/And seminars which helps churches of all sizes create a better worship experience for both the online audience and the in-person congregation. In this conversation, I talk to Jason about how a church of any size can use online and in-person church to make each a better experience for worshipers.
Episode 019, 53 minNovember 17, 2021
Karl Interviews Matt Branaugh on the important subjects of law, tax and finances in the church. Matt is an Attorney at Law and Content Editor for Church Law & Tax.
Episode 018, 54 minNovember 05, 2021
Karl Vaters podcast guest this week is Bob Roberts Jr., a pastor, author, global strategist and more. Bob has a heart for Jesus, for the Gospel, for all kinds of people, and for the role of the small congregation in fulfilling God’s mission. In this podcast, Karl and Bob have a free-wheeling conversation that touches on many subjects, all of which can help every church and every church leader.
Episode 017, 53 minNovember 01, 2021
Karl Vaters and Gary Garcia have another conversation. This time, they talk about Pastoral Transition from a unique perspective. Karl was Gary’s lead pastor for 25 years, then Gary transitioned to being the lead pastor, while Karl stayed on the pastoral staff with him.
Episode 016, 40 minNovember 01, 2021
Karl Vaters and Gary Garcia have a unique relationship. They’ve worked together at the same church for 29 years. For the first 25 years Karl was Gary’s lead pastor. For the last 4 years Gary has been Karl’s lead pastor. Yes, at the same church.
Episode 15, 46 minOctober 15, 2021
Karl Vaters talks with Tom Harris, the co-author of Soaring Between Pastors: 8 Actions to Thrive During a Pastoral Transition. Tom also serves as the president of IPM (Interim Pastor Ministries).
Episode 14, 40 minOctober 14, 2021
Karl Vaters interviews Rich Brown, the author of Extended Stays: A Closer Look at Longer Pastorates. He has served for decades as a pastor and in Christian higher education. Currently he serves with IPM (Interim Pastor Ministries).
Episode 13, 29 minOctober 13, 2021
Karl Vaters interviews Matt Henslee. In addition to being a small church pastor and authoring/co-authoring several books, Matt has recently been appointed to leadership in his denomination (Southern Baptist Conference) on both a regional and national level.
Episode 12, 27 minOctober 12, 2021
Jean Morgan, a small church pastor who wrote a Masters thesis about the correlation between a pastor’s personality and the size of the church they serve.
Episode 011, 41 minAugust 19, 2021
My podcast guest this week is Lori Andrews, Ed.D. She and I talk about trauma, its effect on the brain, and how to use this information as we lead through challenging times.
Episode 010, 40 minAugust 19, 2021
In this week’s episode of Can This Work In A Small Church? I interview Drew Dyck about the important subject of Writing for Ministry. Drew is the author of several books, most recently, Your Future Self Will Thank You: Secrets to Self-Control from the Bible and Brain Science (A Guide for Sinners, Quitters, and Procrastinators). Drew has spent a couple decades as a writer and editor for major church publishers.
Episode 009, 46 minAugust 05, 2021
Karl Vaters interviews Greg Atkinson about how to make a great first impression with guests in small church.
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Small Church Essentials: Field-Tested Principles for Leading a Healthy Congregation of under 250
Moody PublishersMarch 6, 2018256 pp., 12.99